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There is some justification. They were not allow to be buried with a Wiccan symbol in a military cemetery until the court forced them to. As Christians we need to fight for other religions freedom in order to insure our freedom. I would think that this would be well understood by now.

By the way, the whole Harry Potter arguement still doesn't make sense unless you want to include Tolkin and Lewis as well. Again, this is actually in contradiction to the stated editorial policy of Christianity Today.

There's a lot of justification. When you, as a pagan, start a new job where everyone is friendly, but loves to talk about the crazy girl that said she was 'wiccan' or 'witch' that they fired openly - never because of any incompetence, but always focusing on her religion and how 'weird' it was, well...you learn real fast to act like someone you're not, just to keep your job.

Really. It happened to me. In one of the 'liberal' universities people like to talk about.

As a minister of deliverance (exorcism) I have long encountered members of this "earth religion" which is promoted as beneficial to its adherents. However, what it is claimed to be, and what it really is, are two different things. To those who are not Wiccans it is presented as a positive religion, while those who are Wiccans are afraid to speak against the religion for fear of retribution. I have helped quite a nuamber to come out of it, including a senior witch who was sent from Texas to New York to investigate how it was being done.

Make no mistake; God condemns witchcraft! Period! There is no such thing as "white" witchcraft or any other shade of it. Bear in mind that "Satan appears as an angel of light." Wicca seems like a good thing until you become deeply involved and find out, firsthand, just how evil it really is. Mother Moon is NOT a deity to be worshipped or respected. "She" is a demon! The "Book of Shadows" and the "Key to the Book of Shadows" are not things to be accepted by anyone who does not wish to go to hell.

Why on earth do Christian pastors keep saying this scary crap about wicca? I've been wiccan for 20 years. I've been with a group, but for the last 10 have only practiced within our family structure. NO ONE is holding me in wicca- that is crazy. I'm only in it because I love it as a way to commune with God.

John, most of the witchcraft references in the Bible were misinterpreted anyway - witch/well poisoner. I am certainly no well poisoner.

I respectfully suggest you have no idea what you are talking about.

KG's comments are rather funny. By the way, the book he referred to is "The Lesser Key of Solomon" which is entrenched in Judeo/kabbalah beliefs. It is used in Ceremonial Magic. There are Wiccans that use Ceremonial Magic. Most Wiccans do not practice ceremonial magic and practice a form of folk magic.

Earth religions are like any other religions. There are a few crazies. KG's information obviously came from those few crazies and not from Earth Religions as a whole. Imagine if we Pagans judged all Christians from Pat Roberson, Jerry Falwell and Fred Phelps (the ultimate crazy)?

I know some wonderful Christians, one being my wife. A Pagan and a Christian together for more than 20 years. She has taught me about true Christianity. I have several friends that are true Christians and we are very close. A local Minister friend of mine consults me often (I am a minister of my faith) about spiritual matters. I have found that Pagans and Christians can come together and share a love for Spirit no matter what a person wants to call it.

Contempt prior to investigation is a mistake that most people fall into when they are researching something different and something they have been taught to fear.

Our world is vast and diverse. To think the after life is small and closed makes no sense. God is all encompassing taking care of all his/her people not just a few. Christianity is big in the States but it is still number three. It is not number one. Two other religions have more followers than Christianity.

People are turning towards Pagan religions because of the poor experiences they have had in the Christian Faith, having a mean, angry, vengeful, shaming God pushed on them when they no deep inside that God is love.

Paganism is the fastest growing belief system in the world and it bothers the Fundamentals to no end. The only problem is that the fundamentals are our greatest promoters (As a whole we do not promote ourselves). If Fundamentals are so concerned about earth religions maybe they should start loving the lost instead of scaring the lost away.

Loki

I made a mistake towards the poster. My remarks were towards John's remarks and not KG's.

By the way I have practiced Earth Based Religions going on 25 years and I have never heard of a senior witch or I have I ever met anyone afraid to speak out against Wicca or not be able to leave. Paganism in general and Wicca specific has always been a choice. If a person has not been able to leave then they are practicing something concocted from someone's imagination and not an earth based religion.

Loki

I agree with Loki--most Wiccans seem to have had a bad experience with the Church or with Christians. The problem? The Church is made up of people, and we are all sinners, misfits, and ragamuffins. Thank God He loves us still. But we need to do our part to make sure the church door is wide open and welcoming...I'm wondering today what I can do.
Blessings,
Susy

I'd rather go to hell than go to John's heaven. Any day.

Wicca is the Work of Satan -

How do I know Wicca is no good? Because I fooled with some other areas of the occult. I said some prayers to some gods and goddesses and thought I was really connecting with good spirits. Then one day while seeking wisdom I picked up and started reading the Holy Bible, and almost immediately was attacked by demons. I had to seek someone in the deliverance ministry to help steer me out of it. To be attacked by demons in your own body and mind is was the most awful experience I have ever had. I had knowwhere to run, as they attacked me 24 hrs a day. I had to seek The Lord Jesus Christ and repent. Then, I had to go on many many many fasts to get rid of them. I ate only one meal day each day during each seven day fast - IT WORKS!!!!!

Wicca is the occult, and the work of Satan. Get your head into the bible and do some reading. Accept Jesus and renounce the works of Satan and learn the bible, and Satan and/or one of his demons will show up to cause you alot of grief. Satan loves to see stupid people accept his lies instead of the truth of Jesus Christ.

Here is what GOD has to say about witchcraft and the occult.

Read on...

Leviticus 19:31-32 (KJV)
Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the Lord your God.
[32] Thou shalt rise up before the hoary head, and honour the face of the old man, and fear thy God: I am the Lord.

Leviticus 20:6-7 (KJV)
And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people.
[7] Sanctify yourselves therefore, and be ye holy: for I am the Lord your God.

Leviticus 20:27 (KJV)
A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.

Deut. 18:9-14 (KJV)
When thou art come into the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. [10] There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, [11] Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. [12] For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord: and because of these abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee. [13] Thou shalt be perfect with the Lord thy God. [14] For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the Lord thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.
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Abominations According to GOD in the Bible.
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1) Divination:
Fortune Telling. Seeking after knowledge of future or hidden things by inadequate means. Supplemented by some power which is represented all through history as coming from gods or evil spirits. The attempt to obtain information regarding the past, present, or future through occultic methods, such as astrology, channeling, crystal balls, tarot cards etc.

2) an observer of times:
soothsayer, One who pretends to tell future events. The following of horoscopes, omens in the sky and nature, astrology and monthly prognostication. Star Gazing - prognostication and observing times.

3) an enchanter:
This designation describes one who practiced magic or "divined by signs". (SONG SPELL OR AUGUR) One who uses the human voice or music to bring another person under psychic control. Uses incantations and pronounces spells of evil spirits. Hypnosis and spell casting comes under enchantments. To hiss, whisper a spell, prognosticate, divine, enchant, to practice magic, to cover, to cloud over, observe times. Enchantments - Practice of magical arts: Soothsayer, Sorcerer.

4) a witch:
Female and male, respectively, who practice white, grey or black magic. Anyone who uses clairvoyant or psychic powers such as ESP, mental telepathy, levitation of objects, astral projection. Witch (Sorcerer) -
one who deals with evil spirits in order to work a spell on people, to practice magic, to whisper a spell, to enchant, to use witchcraft. Wizard (Clairvoyant or Physic) - male witch, conjurer, ghost prognosticator.

5) a charmer:
A charmer was one who dealt in spells and who claimed that by means of these spells, he could achieve some desired result. (SERPENT CHARMER) The use of amulets, potions and symbols to hypnotize, cast spells, bring good luck, to charm away warts and diseases (Earline's brother) and to give protection from evil. To fascinate, to spell, to join by spells, enchantment. Without a doubt includes hypnosis. Charming - To put a spell upon.

6) a consulter with familiar spirits:
One who contacted a spirit of a person who had died. However, the Hebrew terms seem to suggest one who was able to contact a spirit dwelling in himself.

7) a wizard: A wizard is a male witch.

8) a necromancer:
one who pretends to call upon the dead. (SEANCE) Communication with the dead. Necromancer (Familiar Spirit) - calls forth the spirits of the dead. This is a medium who consults a demon that mimics a dead person. The necromancer will often go into a trance and let
the evil spirit take over his body and speak through him.

9) One who passes through the fire:
(ABORTION) Priests burned children to death as a sacrifice to the fire gods. Abortion is a sacrifice to the gods of sex.

The six forms of fortune telling are astrology (interpretation of human destiny), palmistry (the practice of reading palms), reading cards, psychometry (getting information from an object belonging to a person), crystal ball and Ouija Board.

your no more a saint than any other hate monger
what to know why people seek other religions other than the ones they were raised in baptist myself it's because of people who spew loathsome garbage like you

Rob, I'm sure your local bookstore also carries many books on Islam, yet Muslims in the United States have long complained about discrimination, and not just since 9/11. Even closer to home, there may also be many books on the Mormons/LDS, an older tradition than Wicca, yet certainly one that still stirs quite a bit of fear and emotion in many Americans---Mormonophobia is still quite common, as Gov. Romney can attest to. The simple fact is that one cannot measure the acceptance of a religion or culture by its book sales---the seemingly exotic and otherworldy nature of alternative traditions makes for book sales far beyond the numbers of practitioners in a given tradition.

Moreover, mentioning "Harry Potter" is really a red herring, Ron. The fantasy magic of Harry Potter has no religious component, is merely simple matter manipulation, and shares no ritual or symbolic commonalities with Pagan or Wiccan theologies or practices. Just like the witches on "Charmed," or "Buffy," they have really nothing in common with the less glamorous aspects of mundane religious devotions.

Quoting Kg: "Why on earth do Christian pastors keep saying this scary crap about wicca?

I'm not a pastor; I'm a minister of deliverance. Some of us say these things about Wicca because we deal with those who want to get out of it but cannot. Unless there is more than one Wicca, then we are obviously talking about the same group and I am not mistaken about those who have come to me for help. One male Wiccan leader threatened to kill me for taking his girls away. He ended up with a bullet in his brain, shot from the gun of another Wiccan male leader. The problem began when I took a twelve-year old prostitute away from Wicca. It was Wicca who made her into a prostitute. She was one of five who were unable to escape from Wicca. It was not their choice to be prostitutes. That is one of the ways Wicca makes money.

Quoting Kg: "I've been wiccan for 20 years. I've been with a group, but for the last 10 have only practiced within our family structure. NO ONE is holding me in wicca- that is crazy. I'm only in it because I love it as a way to commune with God."

As long as you continue to serve Satan he will not bother you very much. Deception is a powerful tool of Satan. Try to leave and see what happens! And as for communing with God, it is not Jesus, the Christ with whom you commune but the god of this world who is Satan. God condemns ALL witchcraft.

Quoting Kg: "John, most of the witchcraft references in the Bible were misinterpreted anyway - witch/well poisoner. I am certainly no well poisoner."

I never said you are a well-poisoner, Kg. I don't know why you brought that up. So perhaps you would tell us exactly which bible references have been misinterpreted, being that you seem to consider yourself an expert on Scripture inspired by the Holy Spirit of God. Others have also said the same thing to me about the bible being misinterpreted but when I asked them to show me, they backed down. Not one person has been able to substantiate their claim.

Quoting Kg: "I respectfully suggest you have no idea what you are talking about."

I respectfully suggest you have no idea what you are talking about, Kg.

Quoting Jennifer: "I'd rather go to hell than go to John's heaven. Any day."

Unless you repent and seek God's forgiveness, you will have your wish, Jennifer.

"Suffer not a witch to live"

Misinterpreted. Should have read "well poisoner" means poisoner.

And if you believe it is in fact translated right, then it is a charge to KILL me.

Just as the Isrealites loved to kill every man, woman and child in the pagan cities that they conquered I suppose.

In any event, the Judeochristian God is NOT my god, so the Bible means little to me in the sense of any religious law.

I don't see any reason all religious groups can't live together and worship whatever way they want to. I have no annimosity towards Christians, Wiccans, Musslums, Buddhists, ect. What I don't understandis that out of all he religious sects out there, Christians are the only ones who actiely try to push their bleifs on others. I've never seen omeone of the Tao or Shinto spirituallity trying to pursuade others to their beleifs. Same with Wiccans. There are Christians out there who use the media and olitics to push others to their point of view. Why should homosexuals not be allowed to marry? If two homosexual Wiccans want to marry, they aren't going against their religion. Why do Christians feel they need to force others to beleive and live as they do. It doesn't affect Christians in any way!

And I am generalizing Christians. From my experience most Christians are ok with other faiths and don't "preach" their beliefs on others, but there are the fundementalist groups who do this.

I find it a waist of breath to argue with "Delivernce minester". They are the classic fanatic; "redubliing their eforts but loseing their goul."

Now to John: wish to think me or my ways evil then fine do sobut do not stan in the way of my rights to do so. I can care little what you and yours thinks as long as you know this; One I do what I do and beleve what I beleve of my free will. Two I never interfer in anyone's free will and I will fight those who would take free will from me or others. John you ether beleve in a fiction or you are part of the archatects of the fiction. One makes me sorrow for you the other would wornt wrath. I would hope in ether you find wisdom. I wish you peace.

I AM WICCAN , I AM VERY PROUD OF BEING WICCAN MY FAMILY ARE WICCAN AND I WILL BE WICCAN UNTIL MY SOUL MOVES ON TO THE NEXT LIFE WHEN I WILL BE FREE TO CHOSE AGAIN. Now I don't really know where some people get off (especially that deliverance minister) saying that we as a people are evil and are going to hell (which is a christian concept not based on any factual evidence whatsoever) In wiccan/pagamnism there is no hell although that doesn't make us free to be bad people. We like the rest of the universe are the product of our actions and as free thinking creatures we choose our actions and as it is our choice it is upon us to choose wisely. Why do you call us evil does't the bible say "Judge not lest ye be judged" so who gives anyone the right to condem us or any other religion for that matter. If you are going to discriminate someone take a look at your own religion.............when was the last time Pagans started a war, when did pagans go round burning thousands of innocent people and pagans did nail there saviour to a cross. Take a look in the mirror before calling others evil and wrong. GODDESS BLESS YOU ALL AND I HOPE THE GOD AND GOD ONE DAY OPEN YOUR EYES AND GUIDE YOU OUT OF THE DARKNESS OF YOUR OWN PREJUDICE.
PEACE

sorry folks typo** GODDESS BLESS YOU ALL AND I HOPE THE GODDESS AND GOD ONE DAY OPEN YOUR EYES AND GUIDE YOU OUT OF THE DARKNESS OF YOUR OWN PREJUDICE.
PEACE

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when was the last time Pagans started a war, when did pagans go round burning thousands of innocent people and pagans didn't nail there saviour to a cross

IF WE MUST BE HONEST UNLESS CHRISTIANS START HANGING DROWNING BURNING WITCHES (ACTUALLY MORE LIKELY ANYBODY WITCH OR NOT)AGAIN! I DON'T CARE WHAT A CHRISTIAN THINKS ABOUT TALKS ABOUT OR EVEN WRITES ABOUT I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO LIVE PEACEFULLY ALONGSIDE EVERY BEEING ON THIS EARTH BUT UNTIL THEN CHRISTIANS AND EVERYBODY SHOULD KEEP THEIR OPINIONS TO THEMSELVES OR SPEND A LONG TIME IN YOUR "HELL" FOR JUDGING ME AND EVERY OTHER PERSON WHO IS DIFFERENT TO YOU!!!!!!

BLESSED BE

You guys are wasting everybody's time. Christ was not nailed to the cross by Christians, it was by Romans who at that time in history worshiped many goddesses and gods.Christ wouldn't even know what a Christian was because he was a Jew telling people to get back to the basic principals of worshiping God. From the beginning of time pagans (Celtics) worshiped any god and goddess including animal spirits, they turned to Christ after being conquered by the Romans. Pagans made all kinds of animal and human sacrifices through the centuries depending on where they lived and what their culture demanded. The only thing I have against you guys is in our town we can't have a (childrens) best witch costume contest on Halloween anymore because of the local Wiccans complaint. The Wiccans wanted the town to let the Wiccans explain or teach their religion during the Halloween festivities. Halloween for centuries has had nothing to do with Wiccan, it started with the Celtic return of the dead, harvest ending, good crops, etc. now, it's candy, costumes and parties and not just for the kids. The worship of the Druid goddess (Wiccan) is from uncivilized, uneducated people or cultures, and you guys need to update your resume. People no longer worship the Sun either just because it hangs in the sky above us and heats the earth up for us to keep warm. We use electricity now to do that. Enough said.

Actually Jesus being nailed to the cross was a result of the people (followers of christ---that makes them christian by the way) demanding it of pontius pilot who then gave the order to keep the peace. PAGANS as a broad spectural religion which includes thousands of different cultures are not free from acts of dipravity or violence NO RELIGION TRULY IS. Now unlike you I have taken the time as a WELL EDUCATED PERSON TO READ THE BIBLE, WICKED STORY BY THE WAY (BUT A STORY NEVER THE LESS). If you actually took the time to EDUCATE YOURSELF you'd know that the 30th of October is actually the PAGAN NEW YEAR fair yes it was alot to do with honouring the dead and I personally don't have a problem with kids dressing up and having a little well mannered fun. But you as a society of people really have to pull your heads out of the dark ages becuase it just seems that as soon as another religion looks like it's threatening your so called authoritie you try and crush them down again here's a list for you, Muslims, Jews, Pagans, Sikhs I could go on and it's not just religion alot of you think God gives you the right to hate those of other races as well. GOERGE.W.BUSH uses GOD as an excuse that it is right to bomb thousands of innocent people in IRAQ and please don't tell me he doesn't I do watch the news. Now I know all Wiccans aren't perfect NOBODY IS NOT EVEN YOU!!! It's the great HUMAN flaw but that doesn't give Christianity the right to march around on you MORAL HIGH HORSE telling us we are evil and are going to hell. THE WORLD IS NOT FULL OF BAD RELIGIONS AND BAD IDEAS ONLY BAD PEOPLE!!!!

People like A saint are the types of personalities that are helping Paganism grow. Paganism (umbrella for many religions not just Wicca) is the fastest growing religion in the States.

Quote the Bible all you want and keep trying to scare people all you want and you will continue to run people away.

Quoting the old testament is a little silly. After all, Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice, the lamb of God. He came along because that old testament stuff was just not working. If you are going to live by the Old Testament then it may be best to get a Torah since the Torah is the proper translation. The king James version is not very accurate to the old Hebrew and Aramaic text.

And John.... The people you have met are not practicing Wicca even thought they claim to be. Jim Jones was not practicing Christianity even though that is what he claimed. He was a nut that was able to manipulate many lost souls. I do not judge all of Christiandom as nuts because of the Jim Jones's or the Fred Phelps's.

Don't make the mistake to lump a whole group of people because of a few crazies. The people you have talked about had more problems than being Wiccan. Being Wiccan had nothing to do with that fellow getting shot. If I take your logic then all Christians can't be are evil because of the few who bombed abortion clinics and assassinated abortion doctors..

How many books have you read about Wicca or other alternate religions? Do some good research and you will find out that these people that claim to be Wiccan are just using the word not the principals. I know several people involved in Christian cults that were not allowed to leave. Does not mean all Christians are like that.

Trust me, I know many more Wiccans than you do and the problems you mentioned are not the norm.

It is not important whether you agree with the Wiccan religion or not. What is important is that if you live in the USA you have the right, given to you by the constitution, to believe or not believe any way you want. As a Christian you have that right. People that are Wiccan or any other religion have that right also and should not be discriminated against. Equal rights for one person should mean equal rights for all people. If you want people to respect your belief and your right to practice then it is only right that you give others of a different faith the same. It is arrogance to tell another how they should or should not believe.

Personaly, I have no problem with Jesus. I have my own understanding that works for me. Now there a few of his followers that do get on my nerves. The only problem I have with Christianity is the belief that there is only one way that God talks with people and any other belief is wrong. And even if we the different are wrong, damed to hell, it is still our right and we would like to be left alone.

Loki

I AM A CHRISTIAN.... I have researched many differnt wiccan books .In my findings I believe that most of wiccan is a form of ancient hebrew,christian rituals and practices. For example the use of a staff in magical workings. There is a spell...... chant is spoken with the story of mosses bascically giving glory to mosses.This spell would release any one under a bondage. So many spells taken from the christian bible. The prosses of cleansing for spiritual reasons in wiccan was used long ago in the old testament and ofcourse the new testament.Washing in living water . Wiccans have many healing spells that include washing in living water.As for possesion I have seen a white witch expell evil spirits out of a person .She also used the invocation of God to help her. The book of revalations descibes heaven practies similar wiccans. The use of herbs insecnce. As a matter of fact it was a 1970 book of wicca that a star Goddess is identified .... Her stament is "On earth you will have sorrow , but in heaven your family and friends will be with you and you will be happy." (((((((The first wiccan's did not belive in reincarnation.)))))) Sounds like the words of Jesus Christ . It was from this book I could identify her the star Goddess as the bride of Christ a real women spirit over Judea who gives birth to Jesus Christ son. the child gets caught up and rules the nation with a mighty scepter.You can find this in revalations 12. If wiccans are sinners why are christians disobeing God in Psalms 1;1. The words brought to me are the words of Christ you will know a tree by it's fruits . If wiccans heal and deliver people from real trouble and christians do nothing but point fingers who's tree is bearing fruit?
I AM NOT SAYING ALL WICCANS ARE GOOD AND NOT ALL CHRISTIANS ARE BAD.

I seen the book of shadows all its was mainly was a book of those initated, addresses names dates etc,,, now how is that so evil

Well I have to say I was saddened at a lot of what I read here, from Pagans and Christians. I am a Pagan and also very proud of who I am and what I do with my life. The problem that occurs is faiths such as Christianity is that it is a converting faith and seeks to do this with all its strength. That is the whole reason the Christian priesthood exists. Now before I'm misunderstood let me just clear up one point, I'm not saying its wrong to convert people. What is wrong is the means used to do this by some people who in my own personal opinion have no right to call themselves Christian.

Creating hate goes against the will of God, now being from a very Christian family myself I understand this very well. The strange thing is my family completely except and more often than not enter into some amazing debates about our paths. I really enjoy such things and I learn a great deal about how I can help create more understanding between faiths. I will also just add a few little points here to those who would quote the bible, 'Suffer not a witch to live'?

I have simple answer there, 'thou shalt not kill'

Before you quote and use references out of context remember how easily they can be seen as contradictions. Don't use a book that is full of wonderful morals and amazing guidance as a weapon to beat those who do not see things your way. I know many Christians I know would view that as taking the word of God and abusing it, something I doubt you want to do.

Now I'll address something else, because in no way is Christianity solely the cause of much of this hate mongering. I have read numerous books, sites and personal blogs made by Pagans that go on and on about how wronged we have all been. Constantly dragging up the past is no way to build a future. Yes Pagan's were abused, murdered and on a large scale, wiped out for the most part. But the sins of the father should not be the sins of the children. Mistakes that were made in the name of religion are terrible, but remember we can change that and learn from those mistakes. Yes we will encounter people who will continue to believe that they are right and anything else is wrong, but if they are just a few voices that are silenced by the voices of reason then really we are living in a world of wonder.

Just remember, to accept anothers faith does not mean you are rejecting your own. All it means is that you are open, kind and above all else, understanding. If the world we live in can find these principles within itself, then we are heading for a world that can give our children a brighter future.

Richard

Okay, first off. Wicca is not the occult, the occult and wiccan are two different things. Secondly, if you try to do spells on someone without their permission it comes back 3-fold so perhaps Jenifer, you did something you shouldn't have, or got confused and mixed up wiccan and the occult. ANother thing. I DO NOT CARE WHAT CHRISTIANS BELIEVE, I DON'T PERSECUTE THEM, I DON'T JUDGE THEM and i do NOT expect to be done that way either! And if you are all so keen on quoting the bible, why don't you also quote this "Do NOT judge lest ye be judged" "Shine your light by the fruits you bear" (in other words the way you act reflects your religion. SO being bigots makes Christianity look like bigotry and God also says alot of other things like "Don't have un wed sex, tell me how many of you are not married and virgins? See? How does it feel to be judged. I do not worship nor believe in satan and i have never been attacked by demons while practicing wicca. The fact of the matter is, God gave us advice not rules. If they were rules he would MAKE us follow them. Also, he gave us free will according to your religion so therefore, you are trying to take our free will, which makes you just as bad as anyone else. And if God wanted us brainwashe or forced to follow him like you are trying to make everyone follow him, he would NOT have given us free will. And don't pull that eve at the fruit crap cuz your god supposedly knows all. Therefore he KNEW eve would eat the fruit and knew we would gain knowledge and freewill which means he LET US CHOOSE! Now follow your god's example and let us choose our own paths you dictating assholes!

I am a Wiccan and very proud to be. i do fear what people will think of me but when they find out i stand my ground and defend myself. most of the people in my town are very prejudiced against me and my fellow Wiccan's in this area.

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I can't agree with what you wrote really....
please ellaberate a bit more for me ;d


thanks