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So if he were not running for president would he still be a member?

HILLARY CLINTON IS THE GREATEST CAMPAIGNER IN AMERICAN HISTORY !!!

HILLARY CLINTON CAN BEST WIN IN NOVEMBER:

IT'S ABOUT ELECTABILITY !!!

It's time for everyone to face the truth. Barack Obama has no real chance of winning the national election in November at this time. His crushing defeat in Pennsylvania, and loss in Indiana, West Virginia, and Kentucky makes that fact crystal clear. His best, and only real chance of winning in November is on a ticket with Hillary Clinton as her VP.

Sen. Obama has zero chance of winning against the republican attack machine, and their unlimited money, and resources without Hillary Clinton. Zero chance.

It is absolutely essential that the democrats take back the Whitehouse in November. America, and the American people are in a very desperate condition now. And the whole World has been doing all that they can to help keep us propped up.

Hillary Clinton say's that the heat, and decisions in the Whitehouse are much tougher than the ones on the campaign trail. But I think Sen. Obama faces a test of whether he has what it takes to be a commander and chief by facing the difficult facts, and the truth before him. And by doing what is best for the American people by dropping out of the race, and offering his whole hearted assistance to Hillary Clinton to help her take back the Whitehouse for the American people, and the World.

Sen. Obama is a great speaker. And I am confident he can explain to the American people the need, and wisdom of such a personal sacrifice for them. It should be clear to everyone by now that Hillary Clinton is fighting her heart out for the American people. She has known for a long time that Sen. Obama can not win this November. You have to remember that the Clinton's have won the Whitehouse twice before. They know what it takes.

If Sen. Obama fails his test of commander and chief we can only hope that Hillary Clinton can continue her heroic fight for the American people. And that she prevails. She will need all the continual support and help we can give her. She may fight like a superhuman. But she is only human.

Don't be fooled by the pledged delegate, and math arguments. Neither candidate has the necessary pledged delegates. The entire delegates counts, and votes from Florida, and Michigan are not even being counted. Plus the democratic caucuses, and primarys have been heavily corrupted by fraud, and vote cheating. The only relevant question now is who can best WIN IN NOVEMBER and take back the Whitehouse for the American people. And the answer is HILLARY CLINTON. Everyone knows that now.

Sincerely

Jacksmith... Working Class :-)

p.s. Cynthia Ruccia - I'm with ya baby. All the way. "Clinton Supporters Count Too."

Really, I think it's sad when the top requirement for a President centers around his religious faith. Religion has nothing to do with it, as religion can be used to fit any purpose, no matter what that purpose is. We should be concerned with whether the candidate can do the job, not what church he attends; this is backwards thinking in what is supposed to be one of the most progressive nations in the world. Our overconcern with public religion in politicians is fast turning us into one of the most backwards thinking nations. We supposedly have a Christian in the White House right now, and what has happened? In the last eight years the "unChristianess" of those who loudly claim to be Christians has made Fundamentalist Christianity one of the most denounced faiths in the United States. The book "UnChristian" written by Christians discussing the problem of Christian image to the rest of the world explains this in-depth.

Religion is a private affair, not a public affair. What is telling is most of these politicians start going to church when they want to be elected. Can the person do the job? What are his/her qualifications? Those are the questions the American electorate should be asking.

Jacksmith -- What utter nonsense. Under either Hillary or Barack,
babies will continue to be killed, and gays will continue to
advance their agenda. Moreover, we will be weaker on defense.
I know of no "republican attack machine" nor "unlimited money." You
are obviously deceived by the persistent propaganda from the Left.
"The whole world has been doing all they can to help keep up propped
up"? More errant nonsense! And incidentally, "White House" is two
words. Perhaps it is time to reinstitute literacy tests for
voting! Okay, thanks for taking the time to read this. You may
return to worshipping your goddess Hillary now.

Obama’s own offensive language

I can't help but feel that Pfleger and Wright purposely gave those speeches/sermons recently. I think they're still supporting Obama to win but figured he'd have a better chance if Obama cuts loose from them. But then there's Rev. James Meeks, another of Obama's spiritual advisors, using the term "house n------."

Wasn't it these radicals whose “guidance” and screeds gave Obama the audacity to write in his book "Dreams From My Father" that someone might be an "Uncle Tom. Collaborator. A house n-----."? Obama also used the curse word “g---d------“ a half dozen times, including to describe his own take on things. The “Dreams” book was published in 1995, 8 years after he says he accepted Christ.

Obama has written in his “Dreams” book that he selected his friends with the idea the more radical the better.

Obama calls himself “a committed Christian” yet his version of Christianity isn’t Biblically based. In a newspaper interview, he said he doesn’t believe Jesus’ words in John 14:6. He doesn’t believe in eternal judgment (if there were no eternal judgment for sin, Jesus Christ wouldn’t have had to come down to earth), and he doesn’t know if he’s going to heaven.

The esteemed Rev. D. James Kennedy closed his sermon on John 14:6 with this last year: “And let me add this. If you go out of here saying you don’t like that text (John 14:6), that is your privilege. But do not call yourself a Christian. You are calling Christ a liar.”

Where is his judgement? Why does it take so long to know that it is a racist crackpot church.

Obama did what he thought he should do considering the circumstances. Now if all the people in America would quit their churches that had crazy preachers, you would see the fundamentalist preachers preaching to the pews, and all these Pre-Mill Dispensationalists would have to hire people to sit in their audience for their television shows. As for as these folks hollering and shouting HILLART, they should look at her record in the White House from 1993 to 2001. She didn't do a good job then, and she and Bill are only thinking about themselves NOT America. The nation needs change, and Hillary is not change. -Wendell Franklin Wentz

Concerning the above Post by Richard Dennis miller, June 1, 2008, "HILLARY CLINTON...etc. etc.":
Odd that you allowed a post from an apparent Clinton campaign propagandist who is simply taking up CT space for a rather silly if not crass 30 second political ad. These posts should be better moderated.
Sadly, it is true Obama will likely play out much of the standard Democrat party platform agenda (given his epistemic relativism and pragmatism); nonetheless, he could also be the best thing for this country vis-a-vis faith-based community services, positive relations between ethnic communities (what used to be ill-designated "race relations"), environmental justice, education, and labor and tax reform. Obama's book The Audacity of Hope is quite enlightening on these points, and all Christians would do well to read it cover to cover (there's still time before the general election).
Like McCain, either candidate, Obama or McCain, will be a mixed blessing, yet there are many positive things that a 4 year stint under Obama could bring about for this country (even while I would certainly lament his sad record concerning pro-life values, as well as his naivete and gullibility concerning gender identity issues).
It will be neither a simple nor an easy choice come November. May the God have mercy on us all. --k. d. kragen

Concerning the above Post by Richard Dennis miller, June 1, 2008, "HILLARY CLINTON...etc. etc.":
Odd that you allowed a post from an apparent Clinton campaign propagandist who is simply taking up CT space for a rather silly if not crass 30 second political ad. These posts should be better moderated.
Sadly, it is true Obama will likely play out much of the standard Democrat party platform agenda (given his epistemic relativism and pragmatism); nonetheless, he could also be the best thing for this country vis-a-vis faith-based community services, positive relations between ethnic communities (what used to be ill-designated "race relations"), environmental justice, education, and labor and tax reform. Obama's book The Audacity of Hope is quite enlightening on these points, and all Christians would do well to read it cover to cover (there's still time before the general election).
Like McCain, either candidate, Obama or McCain, will be a mixed blessing, yet there are many positive things that a 4 year stint under Obama could bring about for this country (even while I would certainly lament his sad record concerning pro-life values, as well as his naivete and gullibility concerning gender identity issues).
It will be neither a simple nor an easy choice come November. May the God have mercy on us all. --k. d. kragen

I think the latest releases of information about his friends give us the real picture of Obama. The last time I know that anyone ran for a political office surrounded by these types of friends, e.g., radical activists - terrorists who wanted to change their country and its government, the world ended up with Germany in the late 1930s, and everyone knows what happened. Of course, that excludes some of the people Obama thinks are reasonable enough to negotiate with about dangerous situations around the world. They don't believe it happened. I think when it is finished, if there are enough politically uneducated people to elect him president, the country will find they will have "CHANGE THEY CAN'T LIVE WITH," and they will be happy if four years later they have survived the change.

Senator Obama's Church Resignation Points to the Fact That His Membership Appeared to be Just a 'Political Commodity'
Contact: Christian Defense Coalition, 540-538-4741

WASHINGTON, June 3 /Christian Newswire/ -- It has become painfully transparent that Senator Obama left his church only after his membership began to negatively impact his run for President.

Before the recent controversies surrounding Rev. Jeremiah Wright and others, Senator Obama spoke in glowing terms about his relationship with Trinity United Church of Christ and his pastor which appeared on the pages of his campaign website. Those pages have now been removed.

The difficult question that must be asked is, "What kind of person uses their church membership for political gain and then abandons it when it becomes a political liability?"

Asked another way, "How can Senator Obama be trusted to act with integrity and courage on the critical and pressing issues facing this nation, when he used his own church to advance his political career and left it when it became politically expedient?"

The answer to those questions is; a person who uses their faith tradition and church membership for political gain is not fit to serve as President of the United States.

Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney, Director of the Christian Defense Coalition, states, "The resignation of Senator Obama from Trinity United Church of Christ raises the troubling questions that Mr. Obama treated his church membership as a 'political commodity' for the advancement of his political career.

"Early in the campaign, the Obama for President website was filled with glowing reports about the positive and close relationship that Senator Obama enjoyed with his home church and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Once, it became clear that Rev. Wright and the church were becoming a liability for Senator Obama he resigned the church out of political expediency.

"Senator Obama openly and publicly discusses a deep personal Christian faith tradition on the campaign. Yet his actions over the past several days have betrayed and crushed the very Christian ideals and principles that he says guide and navigate his life.

"To Senator Obama we say, church should be a place where we come to worship, obey and honor God, build meaningful relationships, grow in the knowledge of our Lord and receive the Sacraments. The House of God should never be reduced to a stepping stone for career advancement.”

For more information or interviews call:
Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney at 202.547.1735 Cell: 540.538.4741

I am in total agreement with those who suggest the Clinton's are thinking only of themselves in regard to a take back of the White House...if you haven't read "Unlimited Access" written by Gary aldrich, DO SO...IT REVEALS the characteristics of both our former Pres. Clinton, and his controlling wife, Hillary...I have reservatins regarding Obama, as well as with McCain...but God help us, we have HIS truth to set us free, and to accomplish what He has in store for us, best be on our knees asking HIS WILL be done....

From Post by AZ (June 4, 2008): "The difficult question that must be asked is, 'What kind of person uses their church membership for political gain and then abandons it when it becomes a political liability?'"
Reply: Someone who is not a Christian (in the historic, Biblical, creedal-theological, born again sense of being a Christian), this is the answer. Read Obama's book The Audacity of Hope; then ask your question again. Obama appears to be a soft-hearted man with a lot of compassion and thoughtful ideas about bettering relations between the various ethnic communities in America, a man with a solid work ethic, a man who loves his family, a man of integrity, intelligence, and a 21st century epistemology (that is, relativist, pragmatist, deconstructivist). Obama clearly does not comprehend the worldview of historic, Orthodox Christianity, though he has great sympathy for the values that come out of that worldview, values of the importance of family (two parent households with a mom and a dad who are faithful and dedicated to their children), values about fatherhood, neighborhood faith-based communities, the need for universal daycare for working moms and dads. Obama simply is not a conservative Evangelical Christian and has never claimed to be such. Neither is he a "race" agitator whether black or non-black (i.e. so called "white" or Asian or Polynesian or whatever): and therefore it makes sense he would decide to jettison a liability such as the angry Rev. Jeremiah Wright. I can imagine why he'd be pretty disillusioned with the man whom he fondly quotes at the end of his book, "It brought to mind a phrase that my pastor, Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. had once used in a sermon. The audacity of hope." (The Audacity Of Hope, p. 356, italics mine.)

PS. My previous post of June 2 was incorrectly stated to be in reply to the post by Richard Dennis Miller, June 1, 2008; it was actually in reply to the Post by jacksmith, June 1, 2008.