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Ted, for those of us from the St. Paul side of the Twin Cities we do want to clarify that we will be hosting the RNC, not Minneapolis.

You people should be ashamed of yourselves before God to use a title like that to advertise your coverage.

As long as leaders of the Democratic party insult Americans with their doublespeak on when life begins, then they are not going to be considered for office by those of us who consider where a candidate stands on "life" as foundational to where he/she stands on other issues. The speaker of the house is a disgrace to an office that is supposed to be centered around serving the people, not self-centered service!

How does Jesus feel about the children? What is written in Scripture as to what he said about children when he walked this earth? With that in mind, close your eyes and imagine a "right to choose" person coming face to face with our Lord. You can sense the deep separation between that person and our Lord and Savior. Or, imagine being a medical person who just performed an abortion. You walk out of the operating room just as Jesus returns to earth. You are standing in his presence with the blood of one of his children on your hands. Can you sense the deep separation?

Fuelled by sensationalism and the spirit of fear the Title is a clear reminder of why Christianity Today is becoming irrelevant. Sophistry is alive and well.

The title of this blog/article makes me very very sad. The violent language that you use in the name of Christianity would make Jesus weep.

Shauna marie

Just to clarify, it ain't me calling anyone "baby killers." I'm quoting the guy at the interfaith gathering that launched the convention. (Note the little quotation marks around the phrase.) See, this is why you need to be reading the politics blog. Then you'd get references like this!

I am sorry about the Minneapolis/St. Paul thing, though.

I am a deacon in the Orthodox church, and I can tell you that life begins at conception, this is at my pay grade. I pray that all people who claim to be Christians will not have the blood of innocent children on their hands.
Amen

Ted, you and Katie Couric ... Minneapolis and St. Paul have two different mayors. Great job on everything else!

Innocent baby's blood equates to life. Christ's blood defines life. It's time for America to recognize this precious 'blood' for eternity. She was founded here. If we're in faith let's all secure life!
- associate pastor, God's Family Christian Fellowship

I'm an artist...and I don't care what my pay grade is.

Life began a long, long time ago, and is continued with the process of conception, of which there is no "moment."

The discovery of the mammalian egg was only a little more than two hundred years ago, yet some people haven't yet thought about what that means theologically. It's far more revolutionary than evolution, but everyone seems to pretend that it's something that was always known. Yet in the light of that discovery, a lot of things in the Bible stopped making good sense.

A petition to Bishop Jeremiah J. Park to recover misused Church money

Dear Bishop Jeremiah J. Park:

Current and earlier events need the attention of your office because they will test the meaning of Christian values and of honor among Koreans.

Recently, you advocated, “No torture”, and with other religious luminaries you have marched to the United Nations to protest against the torture and abuse of suspected terrorists held at U.S. facilities in Guantanamo, Iraq, and Afghanistan. However, why have you not condemn the torture and abuse of the innocent members within your church?

Unwittingly it seems to appear the double standard of morality in the episcopacy as you overlooked the torture agony within a Methodist church.

In any event, the church should not be let alone in a Mafia image under your jurisdiction.

More specifically, Mr. Steve Park, and other church officers, had deliberately and consistently tortured and abused my family for many years while the church remained silent. He and his church underlings used the church’s name and trust fund to malign my family and me in order to rid of us from the church. It was to cover up the looting of the church money.

For instance, for one of the three frivoouls lawsuits, Mr. Park falsely accused my son and me that we planned to kill him, his family, his attorney, and other church members in one of his court depositions:

12 A “He said watch out, you asshole,
13 Specifically said you asshole, you watch out, if
14 You don’t watch your step; I’m going to kill you.
...
5 A “I’m going to kill your whole family.”
6 Q That’s what Dr. Sone said to you?
7 A “Yes.”
P. 62; 9-17, 21-23.
9 Q You’re claiming that Dr. Sone
10 threatened to kill you and your whole family?
11 A “Yes.”

Furthermore, he substantiated his assertion that more than 10 persons had witnessed our threats to murder. His witnesses included Reverend Wontae Cha, Y. S. Kim, K. D. Shin, Y. H. Lee, Y. J. Kim, D. J. Chun, Paul Choi, Y. J. Kwon, and I. C. Lee.

Rev. Cha is a good colleague of yours according to information.

Because of his false allegations, my son and I were on trial at the New York State Supreme Court in Nassau County. He used the church’s funds to finance his lawsuit against us. In his lawsuit, Mr. Park also demanded $4,000,000 in damages, while pushing us into the jail as felons.

His lawsuit had nothing to do with the church and was simply a personal vendetta against us. My only offense against Rev. Cha, Mr. Park and others was to strictly observe my fiduciary duty as the chairman of the Board to protect the church’s Building Fund. Nevertheless, according to the court records, officials from the church hierarchy and Steven Park had deceived the judge as if the case was a church-related during an ex-parte conference.

Now, Bishop Jeremiah J. Park must be responsible to identify the persons who were at the secretive meeting with the judge. He must investigate all and any conspiracy against the church and its members. The bishop’s actions matter much with the prestige of the episcopacy.

The year 2008 is the 87th anniversary of the Korean United Methoidst Church and Institute. Bishop Jeremiah J. Park, Reverend Won Tae Cha, Steven Park, Young So Kim and other such characters one day must come to the church and faithfully explain to the worshippers for the justification of the looting for either personal gain or criminal racketeering against the innocent loyal members.

The cowardly leadership owes an explanation to the fellow church members about the mismanagement of church finances: For example, an $180,000 building renovation contract lost for nothing. It only enriched the related parties. Or, another example when the chairman of the board of trustees embezzled $70,000 he is awarded with church money to pay for his legal fees and for part of his embezzlement. Also his faction paid the fines for the sanctions and the contempt of court with the trust fund although they had to pay. Another irony is Methoidst Mission Fund donated $50,000 to the trust as if an incentive to the looting

The judge and NYS Attorney General advised to recover the funds from the abusers. But, why anyone in the church leadership has done anything about these malfeasances?

Now, the time has come to your office to clarify the ultimate moral issues. On July 15, 2007, the church decided to hire a certified public accountant (excluding Korean CPA) to audit the church finances starting from year 2000. The audit is to determine if any fraud has occurred. But, since then, Reverend Chang, the current pastor, who is a friend of yours according to information, has not yet started it.

The church must recover the stolen funds from Mr. Park and the embezzlers. Perhaps, the church may file an insurance claim for the stolen funds so that the insurance company can compensate them. But, you, the bishop, must enforce church rules and order to help this church recover financially as well as morally. Otherwise, the church has no standing as “a light house” to the dark world.

Now, remember that any decent mind cannot allow our historic church to be built on the foundation of the age-old scandals, but on “the rock”. Most of all, the church should be liberated from evil capitulation still in power. If Mr. Park and others like him have succeeded to scapegoat the church scandals on an innocent family, then they would have said, “Halleluiah!!” The church should be maintained as a house of prayer, but a “den of robbers.” (Matthew 21; 13)

Without any further delay, you must recognize that the Korean United Methodist Church and Institute has been under the control of the spiritually-dead clergies and criminals who are filled with demons, falsehoods, hatreds, and deception. It does appear to be a moral crisis of the Korean Church, the NY Annual Conference, and, perhaps, the United Methodist denomination.

I am praying for your spiritual victory in good faith and for the renewal of our historic church. The Book of Discipline guarantees open meetings and free speech. Why can’t we have an open debate for the renewal at the church or a public media? The congregation wants your spiritual leadership as the bishop of the NY Annual Conference as well as the top church leader of the Korean immigrant Christian community.

Please let me remind your office that it is my duty and mission to continuously protect the church’s common interests, according to the church’s rules and the Christian teachings. That is my only way to seek justice and to restore our family name as I have learned from the church throughout my life.
Alas! The church is spiritually, morally broken as it is now.

Sincerely yours in Christ,

Chae S. Sone and family

Please forward the e-mail petition to:
Reverend Jeremiah J. Park, Bishop
New York Annual Conference
White Plains, New York
e-mail address: Bishop@nyac.com

Reverend Chul Woo Chang
e-mail address: chang.kumci@gmail.com

Forward to our distinctuished spiritual leaders:

Media@RickWarrenNews.com
UMC: newsdesk@umcom.org.
NCC

Grassley, Chuck (R)
chuck_grassley@grassley.senate.gov
Charles Schumer (D)
senator@schumer.senate.gov
Hillary Clinton (D)
senator@clinton.senate.gov
democraticparty@democrats.org democraticparty@democrats.org Obamainfo@friendsofmccain.com

Let us pray for the Bishop to do His will accordingly. Especially it is a wakeup call for Korean Christian community – It is a cyber age.

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Ted,
Just to clarify (“ain’t me calling anyone a “baby killer”), I believe it is you that found a sensational quote buried in a single blog entry about an arguably inconsequential portion of the pre-convention events and then used it as a sensational headline for nearly a week. I did notice your quotation marks, I found the quote, and got the reference and still believed you were being irresponsible and unprofessional.
I am confident you know the difference between a minor quote and a headline.
I will also share that I believe experienced journalists, advertisers and politicians know the power and effect of their words. The phrases that filled Denver and phrases that will fill St. Paul, are often not about the meaning of the words, but the intended impact on the audience. If your headline was about directing readers to Sarah’s blog, maybe you should read the responses to your simple entry and consider what your audience heard.
I believe you missed the mark, and the continued use of the headline through the end of the week indicates CT, as a whole, also missed the mark.

FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE OFFENDED BY THE LANGUAGE IN THE TITLE OF THIS...
STOP...PLEASE STOP BUYING INTO "POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IN LANGUAGE"!
ARE YOU OFFENDED BY "THOU SHALT NOT KILL!"?
WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH CHRISTIANS OR ANYONE EVEN NOT A CHRISTIAN?
SAPPY NICENESS AND SAPPY LANGUAGE DOES NOT A CHRISTIAN MAKE!
GET OVER IT AND FIND OUT WHO GOD IS, NOT WHO YOU WANT HIM TO BE...!
PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY ARE SO SUCKED INTO EVERY WHIM OF THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW GOD OR GOD'S WORD, OR HIS HISTORY WITH MAN...
PLEASE...LEARN OF HIM...DON'T MAKE GOD IN OUR SAPPY CULTURAL IMAGE.
WE ARE SINNERS AND NICENESS WON'T CHANGE OUR SINFULNESS AND REBELLION AGAINST GOD. WE KILL BABIES AND ARE TEACHING OUR GIRLS THAT IT IS THEIR CHOICE! HOW RIDICULES! THIS IS NOT COMPASSION, THIS IS NOT FROM GOD. GET REAL PEOPLE IN THE CHURCH...WAKE UP!

The corrective majors are long over due or just ignored by the leaders.

From:Revgommer@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 4:22 PM
To: Bishop@nyac.com;chang.kmci@gmail.com. csone@optonline.net
Subject: Building Funds Questions – Korean Church

Dear Bishop:

This all sounds as though the leadership of our church has handled a “difficult situation” in a poor way. Are these matters of injustice in the claims of those who cry out about the fraudulent use of building funds and trust funds of the Korean Church in New York? Real leaders not only do things right... but in the critical points of decision making...do the right thing. What is the “right thing” in his matter? It is an embarrassment to the whole community of faith.

Chuck Gummer
Former District Superintendent
Former Wyoming Conference Executive
Wyoming Confeence
'revgommer@aol.com'

Dear Brother in Christ Bishop Jeremiah J. Park,
I have received this petition which is addressed to you and only calls for an investigation and justice. If the accusations are true, the situation deserves a resolution. No one should be victimized - especially not by their own church. I don't know the situation, do not know if any of the accusations are remotely true, but have witnessed similar cases. An impartial investigation could bring interesting unknown facts to your attention.
GOD bless you!
Rev. Dr. Alexander Hast

Another decision to audit

On 12/14/08, at the church meeting, a resolution passed to recover the abused trust fund as proposed by Mr. Hyun Joong Kim, that was long overdue since Assistant Attorney General Nathan Courtney’s order to recover them. But he delayed it up to now in an excuse that it would be costly for the church to recover.

Now the church has spoken loudly again that “the demand of return of the abused money to the church is “not Anti church or anti Christ”. It is right thing to do for the church officers to recover God’s money from the abusers.

Now his opposition to the return of the abused fund found to be morally wrong as a pastor as the church formally legally, rightfully, demanded to recover them.
Now the audit is imperative. It should be done as soon as possible without further delay as it matters with the image of this historic church.
This resolution should be disguised as another trick to cover up or delay the
The abuse, embezzlement, or money laundries which disgraced this church and the congregation by a few.