Settlement ends legal dispute; more end-times flicks could be on the way
A nine-year legal dispute between the producers of the Left Behind movies and Tim LaHaye, who co-authored the books, came to an end last week when a settlement was reached between both parties.
Cloud Ten Pictures announced that the agreement ends a dispute that began in 2000.
According to The Christian Post, LaHaye had filed a lawsuit against Cloud Ten, claiming that the producers made a lower quality film than the contract demanded. Still, the first Left Behind film sold almost 3 million copies before its theatrical release in 2001, and earned $2.1 million on opening weekend. LaHaye was also reportedly dissatisfied with Cloud Ten's distribution strategies for the three Left Behind movies made so far.
The settlement gives LaHaye the right to remake the first three films based on his books, but if he doesn't exercise his option to remake the films, Cloud Ten will retain its current rights to make sequels.
"We are thrilled to finally have this behind us," said Andre van Heerden, CEO of Cloud Ten. "While we received repeated judgments from the courts that validated our rights, we were unable until now to finally put this lawsuit behind us."
LaHaye and co-author Jerry Jenkins told the Los Angeles Times in 2006 that they had naively sold the movie rights too early, ending up with what Jenkins called "church basement movies," with Kirk Cameron in the lead role. (Cameron, coincidentally, is starring in Fireproof, another Christian film coming in September from the makers of Facing the Giants.)
While the three films--Left Behind (2000), Tribulation Force (2002) and World at War (2005)--have enjoyed big sales and popularity in the Christian market, most critics would agree with Jenkins' assessment, usually giving the films low marks.
Cloud Ten producer Peter Lalonde told CT Movies in 2005 that he expected mainstream critics "to hammer us just because of the [Christian] message. . . . Of course, Hollywood sends messages every day, but they have always had this mindset toward Christian films, and frankly I think they still do."
The Left Behind series of books have sold a whopping 65 million copies. The 16th and final book released in April, 2007.
Posted by Mark Moring on August 15, 2008 1:39PM
Comments
The Left Behind movies may not have been great, but Cameron's newest movie, Fireproof, is WONDERFUL. (I saw a screening of it). It's one of the more powerful movies I've seen.
Go check it out Sept. 26.
Posted by: Michael at August 15, 2008
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Robert at August 15, 2008
"church basement movies," appropriate for a bottom-feeding eschatology that transforms Christians into unpaid cheerleaders for the other team.
Posted by: RJR_fan at August 18, 2008
The trouble with Tim Lahaye's genre of movies and books is that they are specifically focused on one particular interpretation of pre-millennial prophetic interpretation, promoting it against all others. For thousands of years, including the early history of the Church, as reflected in the writings of Ireneaus in his works against heresies, the early Church held the Classic pre-millennial view. LaHaye's views are fairly recent newcomers on the Christian scene, being a bit over 100 years old. It would seem we should pay more attention to Irenaeus's views, as he was a disciple of Polycarp, who was a disciple of the apostle John. Ireneaus's views were definitely very apostolic and in line with the original views of the Jerusalem Church founded by Jesus Christ himself. Why are these things never brought out, which "Christian Hollywood" tries to paint a different picture than was given to us in the beginning? UNITYINCHRIST.COM does have a section on pre-millennial prophecy which is more in line with Ireneaus's recorded interpretation of pre-millennial prophecy. Check it out to see the "other side" of the interpretive debate.
Posted by: Pete Benson at August 19, 2008
USE ALL THE "BIG" WORDS YOU WOULD LIKE PETE THESE BOOKS PUT REV. AND OTHER BOOKS IN THE BIBLE INTO TERMS ALOT OF PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW CAUSE THATS "ADEQUATE" FOR THIS AUDIENCE, FURTHERMORE IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN CHRIST OR HIS BIBLE MAYBE YOU SHOULD READ SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE TRUTH. I'M THINKING HMM MAYBE YOU JUST DON'T LIKE THE AUTHORS.
Posted by: JULIE at September 9, 2008
Amen to Julie!!! I agree, you can use all the big words you want, but these books, and movies, have put the rapture, and what comes after into reality for a lot of people who do not know Christ, or have fallen away from Christ like I had. That is also why I dont know why the squabble over how the movies were made. Has both parties lost the whole concept over why this movie, and book were made in the first place, and that is to save souls. Lets iron this out fellas, and lets make more of these movies so the public will know the truth!!!!!
Posted by: Mark at October 10, 2008
Indeed. However, may I suggest that it is known that the only genuine American Theology and doctrine is that of Pre-Millennial Dispensationalism as first posed by Darby and his translation (which by the way he received gladly and without hesitation by a "prophetess" in 1880 and never even bothered to search the Scriptures himself to see if what she prophesied was true), and later supported by Schofield. Also, the rapture teaching is based only on one verse in 1 Thes 4:16 which is taken out context not only from the immediate passage, but the Scriptures as a whole. If one wants to truly understand this passage,one has to consider the historical context in which the passage lies, and what Apostle Paul is truly stating. I am forced to disagree with you all due to the Scriptural evidence. The Left Behind Series spoon feeds the reader the theological hermeneutic of the authors along with bad theology.
Posted by: Nick at November 10, 2008
For all those out there who are posting anti-christian rhetoric I would just like to add this. Darwin himself said these words exactly; "IF it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my hteory would absolutely break down." I know that not all non-christians beleive in evolution. As for those who do, I am not proving that my faith is all powerful by quoting the bible, I am simply pointing out your founding father's quote of common sense. Many will discredit this as they follow their faith... I mean evolution blindly.
Posted by: Matt at November 17, 2008
Although I enjoy reading the Left Behind series I disagree with some of their theology. John 17:15 clearly states that Jesus wasn't going to take even the true christians out of the world before the tribulation, but PROTECT us from the evil one. Look for yourself if you don't believe me.
Posted by: Bobby Hector at November 19, 2008
For those who believe that the Rapture is untrue check out this website. It shows that the early church believed in the rapture. http://www.pawcreek.org/articles/endtimes/EarlyTeachingOnPreTrib.htm and http://www.grantjeffrey.com/article/why_some_reject.htm. The word rapture is english for the word means to be caught up in Greek (rapturo) please check this information out.
Posted by: cindi at November 21, 2008
I don't know why Jerry Jenkins referred to the movies as 'church basement movies'. I thought they were actually pretty good (except the first one). If anything, Jenkin's novels are 'church basement' quality - they're so bad I couldn't get even halfway through.
My only criticism of 'Left Behind' is they make a cartoon out of the Rapture which is essentially the most serious event of mankind. This whole Tribulation Force is nothing more than a Christian marketing gimmick that turned out successful in the world's eyes.
We need more realistic story-telling.
Posted by: Eddie Kazarian at November 22, 2008
I enjoyed the first 3 left behind movies and look forward to the next.
Posted by: Mike at November 24, 2008
I very much liked the books and the movies.
I also believe the rapture is coming before the tribulation.
Luke 22:36 says Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.
Rev. 3:10 says Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell upon the earth.
The bible also describes to very diffent days, one He will come like a thief in the night and the dead in Christ shall rise and then all other believers and at an hour you do not expect.
and the other day everyone who is left here will see Him coming down through the clouds and He will set His feet down and it also has the amount of days from the antichrist to the end of the tribulation, so you can figure out an exact day, where the other day says an hour you do not expect and Matthew 13 says the unbelievers are taken first, which is at the end of the tribulation.
Posted by: Michelle at November 26, 2008
Although i do agree that the acting was very bad in most of these movies, i do agree with the main idea of them. Perhaps if they where better made, like Mr. Lahay should do, the word will make a much better impact. People will only concentrate on the bad acting and not the message. Good job Mr.Lahay! Hope you can get someone to do better. This world is going to he** in a handbasket quickly, and we need more movies like these to spread the word without giving the critics more ammunition. If you are not a beliver in Revelations, one needs to just look around with a open mind. Not saying the world is comming to a end, only God knows that information, but i am saying that God is slipping further and further from our country and the meaning of "In God We Trust" that is the motto of this great nation is no longer being practiced.
Posted by: mark d at November 30, 2008
I really love the movies and am very excited about the possibility of seeing another one.
Lets face it how many young people actually take time to read today? A very small portion. These movies are great for sparking conversation, witnessing, and just teach a need for Jesus.
I would like to thank everyone who has played a role in these movies directors, crew, and cast. These are great movies.
Posted by: john at December 8, 2008
I really enjoyed reading the series. I couldn't put the books down and waited excitedly until each one came out. The only one I did not get through was the final book "The Glorius Appearing". I have watched all three movies and thoroughly enjoyed them. I am anxiously awaiting for the next movie to come out!
Posted by: Tonya at December 12, 2008
I'm sorry Mr Lahay thinks the Left Behind movies were basement made. I for one thought they were very well done, but then I make videos of my grandchildren playing out skits in my garage. I do pray that we will get further Left Behind movies. However, I see Mr. Lahay has the right to remake the first three before anymore can be made. What a shame.
Posted by: Wanda at December 14, 2008
If some of these people just know what the endtimes really mean, it is so sad that people would critized a well produced film. I've been reading all the books and to my knowledge the movie is quiet a realistic version of the books. The only complaint that I have is that there is a big sprong from movie 2 to 3. But keep up the Good Word of our Lord Jesus who is on His way to come and take His children away.
Posted by: Adri at December 19, 2008
i think the first three movies should be remadee in pairs..book 1 and 2 then mix the 3 and 4.. then go about making full scale movies on the rest threr is just too much going on to try to combinr anything past the indwelling..i have the first three and cant wait too but the next whatever order they have to come out
Posted by: Scotty Rogers at December 24, 2008
I loved the left behind movies, I have watched them over and over again and no matter what anyone thinks about the acting or which one will come first the rapture or the tribulation, it doesn't matter because in the end the world will be over and you can either be on board or not but I felt these movies brought that to life...i loved them so much, I cried and laughed and hope and pray not just for the next one but for the whole series to be done...these movies are an eye openner and really makes you think about your life and where you stand in your faith...I can't believe that there is a legal battle over this and I have to ask both parites...is that very Christain? I mean if you are getting the word of God out there no matter in what form isn't that all that matters...I think it's all about the money...
Posted by: Hayley Petree at December 25, 2008
I really enjoy the LEFT BEHIND SERIES. I liked the books and the movies both. Nobody knows for sure until it happens exactly specifically how it will play out. But we know it will and these help and comfort me and even show me how it might be for us if we are left behind. They are wonderful. And the dispute was ungodly for a Christian to take another Christian to court. Even sine non-christians even knew that.
Posted by: Carol B at December 26, 2008
I really liked the movies and the books. I thought that they were awesome. I think that they were a great tool to get the word out. I just pray that the dispute is over and done and they will continue to make new ones and not remake the old ones because we dont have that long to wait...so can we please move forward and focus on the souls and not the past to see if more money can be made off the movie, and I think that the dispute is crazy because unless it is over "there werent enough souls saved" then why focused on the quality. Please lets focus on the souls. Please
Posted by: robert at December 29, 2008
I personally enjoyed the books. I found that once I picked them up I could not put them down. I agree that there are some areas that are up for debate as far as theological POVs but that should come in second to the fact that there are "non-Christians" reading these books and asking questions. I think that if one unsaved soul is touched then all is worth it! That is what we were commisioned to do... remember? Touch lives and evangelize the truth of Jesus Christ. They did that for me and for several lost souls in my family.
Posted by: Eric E. at January 5, 2009
I think the series is great. I just got through reading soul harvest and I am looking forward to the movie being made of it.
Posted by: Dragon Rapture at January 14, 2009
Hello,my name is Christopher c.Harrison and I have read all the books and watched all the movies. I don't really known all that is going on, but I loved both the books and the movies.I met Kirk Cameron when the Left Behind tour came to Alabama,I feel really blessed to been able to read the books and watch all three movies. I am hoping the next movie part four will be coming up soon and that Cloud Ten Pictures will also do movies on the rest of the books. We have a lot of lost souls and most of the time they will not listen to preaching,but they will watch a movie.So please when will the next Left Behind movie come out ?. If I can be of any assistance, please don't hestiate to write. The Lord uses me to go and speak at different places.Please understand what I am saying,make more movies if you can.write back!!!
Sincerely,
Christopher Claude Harrisaon
God Bless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Christopher at January 14, 2009
Yes, thank God for the LB books. If not for the LB books, how would non-evangelicals know what evangelicals really thought of them?
Posted by: CombatQueer at January 18, 2009
Interesting that all the "I loved the books and movies" comments on this thread look suspiciously alike... almost as if they were written by a bunch of people with the exact same writing style, from the same terminology right down to the same grasp of the concept of sentence structure (or lack thereof)...
Curious how so many of the readers of the LB series write exactly the same way. I guess they really do think alike. Birds of a feather, and all that.
Posted by: Sylocat at January 18, 2009
I don't know if people are still reading these comments, but I felt a need to say that I agree with Jenkins' assessment of the movies, though someone might remind him Jesus condemns hypocrisy. Also, to my fellow Christians out there, I want to recommend an essay called "Good Work and Good Works." It is a really excellent read, about how quality matters. It can be found, interestingly, in a book called The World's Last Night, by C.S. Lewis.
Posted by: Shanon at January 19, 2009
So much for 1Cor6:1-8! Funny how the article doesn't mention that Christians aren't supposed to sue each other.
Posted by: Chris at January 19, 2009
I also loved the books and the movies. I too want to see more movies with the same actors.
Posted by: lois at January 21, 2009
I thought that the movies were good and i really wish they would make the movies for all 12 book.
the day is coming sooner then we all think. Get you house on order!!!
God bless you all.
Nancy
Posted by: Nancy at January 21, 2009
I like to let every know that the return of Jesus will happen with out question. The bible says so I beleave in the holy book the Bible, no one can take that from me. I pray for the hole world that all will know of Jesus will have the right to make a choice of there own free will. I think the left behind books and what few movies are out are wonderfull there a great thrist and need in the world to day as scriptures are being full filled all have been full filled to meet the requirments for the rapture to happen any time. I love you all see you in glory.love though the blood of Jesus amen.
Posted by: wyonia lee hughes at January 21, 2009
I have read all of the Left Behind books and I have just finished watching the three Left Behind movies for about the 5th time. I have also read all the comments here. And I think some of the unchristlike arguements set forth by the lawsuits and by some of these postings put Christ and His message to an open shame. Regardless of your opinions on when the rapture will take place, or if there will be a rapture, the point is that we are all lost without Jesus Christ. When He comes back, regardless if it's Pre, Mid, or Post Trib, hearts and souls need to be prepared for His coming. That should be the main focus. The messages of these books and movies have reached lost souls and whether you think they are "basement made," or play to a particular belief or theology should be the least of our concern as Christians. Our ONLY concern as Christians should be winning more souls for Christ...PERIOD.
Posted by: Michelle M. at January 22, 2009
I don't read alot of books, except the BIBLE.The only part I see that is fictional in the left behind movies is that we will not triumph over the anticrist in any way. I did however enjoy these movies.
Anything to spread the word of our lord is alright in my book.People should put aside there differences and just let Gods true light shine among the darkness of this world.We are all sinners but we all believe in the same god. Praise should be given to him that gave inspiration for the books and the talented actors that made God's word come alive.Thank you lord for those you send
To inspire the world to believe in you!
Posted by: George bergman at January 25, 2009
I am so glad that I read this report. My family will no longer read LaHaye books. What kind of hypritical message is LaHaye trying to send? My dd was working on her collection to completing this series. Unfortunatly, I will not allow false teachers in my home. The books will be burned. We will not even borrow from the library.
Cloud Ten is a struggling Christian based production company. What greedy "Christian" would try to take from that? LaHaye has more than enough profit w/ books. I am ashamed to have ppl like him in our walk next to Jesus. Shame on him.
Posted by: Mother of 5 at January 25, 2009
I hope that this website has let their readers know that the Left Behind books are heretical and are not Christian in the least. The Left Behind books preach a premillenial dispensationalist message: a deceptive, twisted version of Christianity that emphasizes selfishness and hypocrisy. Remember that "the Devil, too, can cite scripture for his purpose."
I would like to request that all of the people writing pro-Left Behind comments actually read the New Testament again and remember that some of the authors were referring to events that were happening at the time. The authors of the New Testament were quite capable of using metaphor. This becomes a problem when you try to insist on a "strictly literal" reading, so please keep that in mind.
Posted by: Reader at January 30, 2009
To those who are bashing the author and validity of the origin these book are Bible Based and you had better get yourself a set because you'll need them when Your Left Behind.
I have watched them repeatedly and continue too especially the first one, they are all Three GREAT. and it's the best reminder of the Day When JESUS will call us home.
Posted by: VLPatterson at February 2, 2009
If you take any stance except the literal with the Bible, you can make the Bible say anything, in essence, making it say nothing. BTW the pre-trib rapture eschatology has been around at least since the time of Ephraim the Syrian in 373 AD. Then too the Latin Vulgate which uses the word raptus (rapture) was the Christian Bible for about 500 years, so it would seem that NOT believing in the Rapture of the church is the NEW IDEA, not the other way round. Still, in the final analysis; what counts is: if only ONE SOUL has been saved from Hell's fire and Damnation ... because of these Books/Movies ... well, that is enough reason for the series to exist.
PS I do agree however, that Christians should not sue other Christians. It is a very bad witness to the unsaved world. As the old song goes: "And they will know we are Christians by our LOVE." (not our lawsuits).
Posted by: Patricia Anders at February 9, 2009
Yes, it is sad, that christians take fellow christians to the court. But in this case in this case, the film company and the author obviously didn´t agree on which quality of film the contract stated. Since they couldn´t solve the matter in a private dialogue, they had to settle it with help from a third party.
But I think it is to thin just stating, that premillenial dispensationalism is false teaching without showing som proof. Truly the bible does not state clearly nor when the rapture will come, neither in which form (supernatural dissappearing, extraordinary amounts of sudden death or slow development in death during longer time span). But because bible is not clear i find it impossible to prove wether one or another interpretation is the truth. The only interpretation i have trouble to see in accordance with the bible is amillennialism. And I find it troublesome to accept Martin Luthers edition postmillenial view, because we have then been living in the "short" period after the millenium for nearly 500 years. Personally I find it simplest to accept that we are living in a premillenial time with no certain chronology of the end time. If I am wrong please enlighten me with the word of God.
And frankly, most of us are not able to say anything for certain, because we do not understand the original language of the bible, and therefore we are left over with more or less accurate translations of the bible. I do acknowledge those people translating the bible - my knowledge of the ancient languages telles me that it is quite a task to navigate through possiple translations at the same time being accurate and true to the belief, at the same time avoiding to interprete according to ones confession or lack of so. Already at this point it is clear that you cannot just state a teaching to be unbiblical or false without thorough study.
Regarding "church basement movies" it depends on what you compare to. The left-behind phrase derives (I guess) from a song text in the classic 70´ies movie `Like a thief in the night´ which is undoubted a "church basement movie" though the plot is simple and clear. The image quality of the left-behind series is far better than the master epic `Ten commandsments´, while the latter probably has a higher state-of-the art. At the end I as viewer will probably not notice the great difference. And frankly I prefer the money is used to tell a good story, not wasted for unnecessary extravagance.
Posted by: Daniel Giversen at February 21, 2009
Well the main problem is cloud ten picture and there poor production of any movies they make.Second problem is TBN is behind them.Now anyone with any ounce of bibical knowledge can see the false teaching from TBN about 90 % of the time.
But we live in a time when the church does not read the bible anymore !
Again these 3 movies were aweful to watch and the first movie never even mention Jesus by name.The quality of all these movies was of a B rated movie .With the books having sold so well, it's a ashame these movies failed to be as good quality as the the books.
We all the cash TBN steals from foolish christians (The name it and claim it scam works well for TBN ) you would think they could spend the money on creating a real hollywood type production.
Posted by: bodybuilding at March 29, 2009
In response to Daniel....If the 1st movie was so bad to watch, why would you watch the 2nd and 3rd anyway, unless you are simply a film critic, and not a Christian?
Posted by: Bill at March 29, 2009
TBN is a great organization that does ALOT of great things for the church as a whole. They didn't make the best movie they could have but it wasnt HORRIBLE. The authors should have sold it to someone else if they didnt want a christian basement film. Faith based giving is actually talked about thoroughly in the bible and there is nothing wrong with "name it and claim it". With so much GARBAGE on television it is a huge relief to have ANY christian based channel. If you have such a problem with it then i would encourage you to start your own christian channel that does not accept any tithes or offerings at all. that way you can be more holy than TBN. Ridiculous. you should all stop being keyboard warriors and get out in the community and do something yourselves instead of monday night quarterbacking what everyone else is trying to do!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Kenneth at April 6, 2009
Reading thru the comments is overwhelming. Either you are looking for confirmation of your beliefs or you are challenging the truths thru the artistic venues presented. Those onboard for making "Hollywood" caliber movies with "true Biblcal truths" need to stand up and be accounted for and take some responsibility! We are waiting....Mel Gibson took the last hoorah with alot of judgement. Who wants to "pass it on"? Great Holllywood and all your well known? Exactly what can you do.....??? There is an obvious audience....waiting in Chicago and aound the world from China to Europe to Latin America...it's Global!
Posted by: Cynthia Stewart at April 12, 2009
I am new to being a christian. The Left Behind movies hav helped me to realize that i need God in my life, for one day revelations shall come to pass and I want to be on the side that offers eternal life, I want my children and their children to be on that side also to be on that side. I will always believe that their is a God and that his Son Jesus died on the cross so that we may live. this whole dispute thing between the authors of the book and Cloud Ten is unbelievable. How could chriatians who love God and live to serve Him argue behind something so childish. the point of the movie is to show people the right way and what is to come and to help them choose Gods side right. Well it was done I am now a believer because of this movie. so why argue. thats not God like.
Posted by: Diana Thedy at May 10, 2009
I have read the series once several years ago and I am now reading them again. My only problem with the movie is that they do not exactly go along with the books, but very few if any movie follow a book exactly that they are based on. I am looking foward to more of the movies. I will not pass judgement on the legal dispute, because it is not for me to do. I am, however, glad that it has been settled.
Posted by: Ramona at May 28, 2009
well its good to see so much excitment with
this upcoming attraction this is gonna be a slam
dunk. We have all sorts of movies coming out
2012, omen, and so on its amazing when christians
want to create a movie everyone has a problem
well this country was founded on christian morals
so my point is this i dont yell and scream when a budist and s
scientologist does his film. so lets let this movie
do its work he can make this movie a monster
one that will make people rvited. i love the
audio drama if they were to use that and the books
um yeah this would be one heck of a wild ride.
People look around u in no other tim in history
have we had a more close to assembled one world
government. UN wake up you who cant see.
We see the polar caps melting, famin, terrorism,
all sorts of chos and its getting worse everyday.
i myself scoffed and shook my fist but look
around at what is happening everyday the fact that bagdad is
now free this is truly telling especially with
what is written. things are moving quicker
and more stedily. i am writng this on my cell so
pardon the spelling errors. all i got to say is guys
do your stuff make us proud to own this dvd and
please dont get cheasy with it. bring in the
big guns do it right show the world what its
really gonna be like and honestly that means
pg13 or R because this should not be played
down this is one hell of a ride
Posted by: jay at July 20, 2009
I am somewhat curious to know - to the people so fervently defending the theology that Left Behind espouses (some even going so far as to suggest that if you don't agree with it, YOU will be "left behind"), where exactly does this certainty come from? Pastors? Books? Personal study? I've experienced all three and I'VE certainly never been convinced...
Posted by: Matt at July 21, 2009
I feel so honored to have read these books! These are the best fiction based Christian books I have ever read. I have purchased and read all of them. Could not wait until the next one hit the shelf. The movie strenghtened my faith in my Lord and Saviour and gives a beautiful account of what the authors feel that Revelation is trying to tell us about the Rapture, Tribulation, and the Milenium and after that Christ reign on earth. I introduced my sister to these books and her son that had a problem with reading in his 40's now through the power of the Holy Spirit was saved! I would like to thank you for all your hard works and I know our Father will give you your rewards that you both truly deserve. As far as the movies, I do hope that you will persue your dream to make the movies a reality. I enjoyed the books more but, if you do the movies oh my, I can't wait. I know that my church will come to all of them too! God bless anyone who had a part of these books being published! I will continue to pray for the authors!
Posted by: Evelyn Watts at August 30, 2009
Wow. Apparently, Christians really ought to learn the difference between "there", "their" and "they're".
Posted by: undersub at October 7, 2009
I looked forward to the movies and was seriously disappointed in the 1st 2 and found that the 3rd was getting at least better. I think it pittiful that the only thing undersub can add is the need for Christians to learn the difference in "there", "their" and "they're". Surely, he/she realizes that poor grammar has nothing to do with one's faith.
Posted by: shannan at October 8, 2009
Layhaye should be ashamed of himself. The left behind movies weren't amazing but they had a great message and they inspire me every time i watch them. They were a good christian message. Now that he has taken the rights and DONE NOTHING with the movies. he has lost the interest of millions of non-christians. Saving souls is definately not the priority of these authors. I am ashamed of them. But i still pray for them every night to fix this dispute.
Posted by: Cameron at October 12, 2009
I am just wondering, since it has been over a year since cloud ten told us of this settlement, is Tim LaHaye going to take this opportunity to make the movies? I have yet to see anywhere where he has stated or commented as to whether or not he is going to do them. They said that if he doesn't then Cloud Ten has the right to resume making the films (which by the way are amazing and have led MANY of my family members to at least consider living for God). So my question is how long does he have to "act on this decision" before Cloud Ten can resume making the films? The books were AWSOME but some people don't read books like they used to and the movies are a great witnessing tool! God Bless All!
Posted by: Mary at October 24, 2009
I understand why Tim LaHaye wanted more depth, more reality to the movies. They were somewhat shallow compared to the books, but I still thought they sent a wonderful message to the viewers. Kirk Cameron was excellent in the part he played. I read all of the books in the Left Behind serious. Although, fiction the books coincided with the scriptures, and planted a picture in mind readers of how the end times could be. I disagree with the person that thinks LaHaye's views are fairly new. My grandmother is 104 years old, in her right mind, attends church every Sunday and have had the these views since she was a young girl. Ireneaus might have had his interpertation of how things will be, everyone does. However, I for one will stick with the scriptures. If you give your life to Christ and read the word of God (and cross references) with an understanding the mysteries of the end times will be reviled to you. He is coming like a thief in the night. The dead in Christ will rise first and we which are left that believe in him will be caught up to meet him in the air. It's that simple. We need more movies that will touch the heart and lives of us all (Christian and sinners alike). Please LaHaye remember it's all about winning souls for the Lord. It's time to put your disagreement behimd and began production anew. We're more than ready for movie #4.
Posted by: J. Jones at November 14, 2009
I don't know all the ins and outs of what is going on with the Left Behind series. Parts I and II were very good, part III was a bit of a switch. Now I am waiting for part IV. I am hoping it will be more like part I and get back to what the purpose is. These books (movies) are a good representation of things to come. Lets not stray from the scriptures. Cloud Ten and the authors need to work together and resolve their differences. They all need to ask the Lord to guide them in making these movies in a way that He would want them to portray His word. TRYING to wait patiently. Sue
Posted by: sue at November 25, 2009
First of all, I have read the 12 books in the Left Behind series. I think they are great. To me, they are very thought provoking. I must be one of them. I have not seen the movies so I cannot comment on them. Whether or not the rapture occurs before the tribulation is in a way a muted point. I would rather be ready for it in case it is true. I don't particularly want to wait to find out.
Posted by: rover81 at December 1, 2009
I love the books. The movies, just like anyother movie made from a book, was not as good as the books. But I will watch every movie they come out with for the Left Behind series. I also think if you have not read the books you are missing out on the whole story. The books have sooooo much more to them! You get to know the characters a whole lot better.
Posted by: angela at December 3, 2009
I have to disagree. I read all of the books, but like many people, felt they began to get off on too many side adventures as the story progressed (and which all seemed very similar after awhile). And as a result, many of us began to lose interest. The authors could have combined some of them together and crisped it up a lot, without losing the message. The books also made it seem like oposing the antichrist was an exciting adventure for the characters, and I can pretty much assure you it is going to be nothing like that! The everyday difficulties they should actually have had just living, seemed to be ignored in favor of describing more "adventures". In contrast, I thought the movies were good, and a cut above many Christian movies in quality. And if they do not follow the books exactly, because they leave out a few of the subplots, thats fine with me! I hope there are fewer movies than the books, because that way they can be more focused. Bring on #4!
Posted by: joan at December 19, 2009
Why would it mater if the movie had over rated hollywood stuff in it it is the message no one will know how it will happen till it happens its in gods hands but to be abel to give thos that may never touch a bibel something to open the hearts and mnds is a powerful thing I love the movies and books not for the acters or the effects but for the message I have gone and had to buy my movies 3 times and am happy why u ask I have loned and given them to many folks i know that had no clue about god or just did not belive and the liked if not loved them started asking about god and one i know was so against god and watched the movies well we just went and got his first bibel it will never matter how the message is sent only that it is reseved by the ones that need it most I can not wait for the new movies to see who els i can help god bless
Posted by: ELIZABETH A SMITH at February 24, 2010
I'm sad that Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins don't like the movies. I'm obssessed(in a good way) with the movies, they are so good and amazing, and I want more! It changed my life, and how I think about my personal life with God, and I don't want the movie to change!
Posted by: Samantha Maise at April 17, 2010
I believe that LaHaye and Jenkins should start over with the films. While they should not compromise their morals and the integrity of the message, I believe they should also not compromise on the severity of the end times. It is important for the unchurched to see a clear description of what the world is like today and what it will be like when the end comes. The books were graphic at times. The movies should be as well. Even if they generate an R rating. We all know that non-Christian folks are more apt to see Christian films if they are rated for adult audiences. Say it like it is and don't sugar coat it.
Posted by: Phil Smith at May 15, 2010
As a big supporter of both the movie and the book I wonder why is there a lawsuit? Yes I can see that there are parts of the book that has been taking out and also extras that was not in the book but yet the Messase is still getting out my vote is to stop the lawsuit
Posted by: Timothy at May 22, 2010
I do agree they should remake these movies, and I also believe Kirk Cameron did a great job with what he was given. He is a terrific actor and I think if they do, do a remake, they should put him in it again. Maybe not with the same part -- I don't know, but I think he was one of the handful of actors in it that made it worth watching as entertainment. Additionally they should re-do the movie because I think the message could be better and get to more people on a wider scale if it was done more professional -- without getting away from God's message to us all..
Posted by: Felicia at May 25, 2010
I would have to say that it is pretty pathetic and very non-Biblical for a Christian to sue another Christian for monetary gains. While I totally understand that differences of opinions do arise between us as believers, there is a right way to resolve these issues-and a wrong way. Lawsuits are the wrong way to go. I reject some of the theology behind the Left Behind series(mainly that the rapture will not be a secret by the world-Jesus will be plainly visible), but they are effective at witnessing to the lost and very entertaining. While LaHaye is certainly entitled to his eschatology views, he is not entitled to sue a fellow Christian. It's time to repent....
Posted by: Jeff at June 3, 2010
My husband and I loved these movies. We are getting ready to watch the second one. We watched the first and the third without realizing it. One of the reasons we liked it was because of Kirk Cameron. We loved Fireproof too! It was lower budget but thought it was still great. It really makes you wonder what it will be like when the rapture comes. We are Christians dedicated to the Lord and raising our children in the Lord. We look forward to more of the movies being made. My mother in law has all the books in the series so in the meantime I may have to get reading!
Posted by: Kim at June 28, 2010
The Left Behind series isn't good writing or theology. The films aren't well-written or acted. It's ironic that Kirk Cameron became a Christian through the series, but God can use anything to reach people. I have tried to watch the first 'Left Behind' film several times and have been unable to finish it. Why are both series so flawed? Because they completely eliminate the way of the Cross for Christians, and limit God and His love.
Posted by: Christina Archer at July 20, 2010
I agree with Kim. The theology supposes a third coming of Christ:
1. His Nativity and 3 year mission while on Earth.
2. The Rapture.
3. The Glorious Appearing.
It is number 2 that I have a problem with since that was NEVER taught until the late 19th early 20th century; in other words, a NOVEL idea. And yes Kim, it does eliminate the way of the Cross because it enshrines the idea that there are those who will escape suffering which is absolutley contrary to what Christ actually taught: You MUST pick up your Cross (suffer) and follow me.
Everyone will have to go through the tribulation.
Posted by: Dan at November 18, 2010
Hi, i just wanted to say i loved loved loved the books and are on my 3rd or 4th time through them.
that said, the first two movies, while not the highest of quality, were great. i was a bit irked with the 3rd however because it didn't follow the books as closely as the first two did. i can't wait for more movies, but hope that they take greater care in following the books. i don't mind them smooshing two or three together to make a movie, but i would like the timelines to remain consistant with the books. if that makes sense.
Posted by: Shelly at December 7, 2010
Wow! I am excited that these movies/books have sparked such intense dialog. We are all held accountable for what we believe. We have no right to judge those who do not believe the way we do, only pray for them. Arguing with them doesn't show them Christ. We are to show by action and correct them lovingly. Not all parts of these movies/books are true, there are fictional parts, it is a movie/book.... they are not meant to define how things will actually be in the end times. The movies are only the producers interpretation of the books. It is a glimpse of what someone has read in the Bible. There are scriptural accuracies in the movies/books, however, not all things in the movies/books are scriptural. No one should believe anything blindly, the Bible states to "Study to show thyself approved...." We all have the responsibility to study and know why we believe what we believe or what we do not believe. These movies did cause me to dig into the scriptures and maybe that was the intention of the author. It has the capacity to save souls and God will use it to His glory. For all those worrying about when the rapture will happen, study, pray, and know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Christ is your Lord and Savior and you will be ready whenever that day comes. Only the Father knows when that is...
Posted by: Betty at January 11, 2011
Amen to Betty! I, too am excited about how the books spark such an intensity. I am looking for the series now. I am sure a lot of my Christian friends have them, I just need to look around. I want to read them to my boys. And anything that urges my son to put a note above his bed that he will see every night and day reminding him to be more like Christ and "go and make disciples of all nations" is something that I will cheer on to the end. Thank you, God for speaking through a novelist!
Posted by: Amy at January 27, 2011
First of all, regardless of the quality level of the films, they sold an enormous amount of copies and have changed lives, opened eyes and cleared minds to learn about and believe that Jesus Christ is our one true Lord and Savior who died for our sins on the cross. I would like to see more films, I love the books and I hope LaHaye and Jenkins can put this behind them and move forward to see that the important aspect here is to continue to spread the word of God through cinema. In the meantime you can watch and learn with Kirk Cameron at www.thewayofthemaster.com Thank you.
Posted by: Rose at February 26, 2011
I loved all of the books and the movies and I am waiting for more, hopefully soon. My daughter started reading the kids left behind series then switched to mine. She said the kids were good but the books for the adults were much better. I'm just thrilled she read them and liked them. We need to hear more on the news about these books and movies. I mean you can get all you want about crime and then some, but nowhere near enough about GOD. Why is it that the media shys away from GOD so often? And when I was in school we prayed. Things have changed, but not GOD's word. We need more Left Behind Movies. God Bless!
Posted by: Sherry at March 7, 2011
Ok, so I was reading some of these posts and was thinking, why such a fuss about movies? I do agree they should continue with the series because I hate to see things unfinished. I am just starting to read these books so I can't comment on that but I have seen the first two movies. I think they are good movies, but I don't completely agree with them. But we must remember that everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. And this is just one opinion of what will happen during the rapture. I am not sure what will happen all I know is what the bible says and I am sticking to that. All that I will do now is continue my walk with God and try my best not to fall into sin. I will also do my best to do what God wants, follow God's path for my life. I think that is what we all should do. Read your bibles people! Oh and to all the people who said that books are becoming a thing of the past I am 17, and I know millions of people who love to read, some even say reading is better than watching a movie. But I digress, I don't think we need to worry too much about the rapture and all we must do at the moment is what the bible says, and follow and have faith that God will provide. But we need to love him and have a relationship with him. See, easy isn't it.
With lots of love, God bless.
~Halie
Posted by: Halie at March 9, 2011
Who cares what interperatations are made, i will give you facts: Believe in Jesus and you will be saved.
Posted by: Bryan at March 16, 2011
Wow im amazed to see all the fuss over a fictional story. Where some things in the books are based on facts it is still a make believe story meant to entertain. I consider myself lucky to have seen the movies before reading the books, i would have to believe the the authors where more upset with the story being butchered in the 2nd and 3rd movies. I know its typical hollywood to spin off in their own direction but this was ridiculous.
Posted by: Don at April 12, 2011
I think the Left behind movies were extreme! I wish they would continue making the rest of the movies. In South Africa its pretty popular among the christians who have watched the movies over and over again. I dont think anyone could have done a better job the Kirk and rest of the crew. Please continue with the rest of the movies.
Posted by: Rita at June 20, 2011
Well I loved the movies and the books. As someone who didn't know the Lord I was so shocked when I read the book that I got saved from reading the first one..I loved the movies and watch them over and over.Only God knows what is the truth about pre-trib and post -trib and all this acting bashing by so called Christians isn't very Christ like..I love Jesus and anything that gets me or anyone else to come to know Him is great with me...MORE movies please...
Posted by: Jean Benson at July 10, 2011
After reading the whole series more than once I was somewhat disappointed with the movies. They weren't bad but they weren't true to the books. There were parts cut out that would have made certain scenes make sense. It felt rushed and mediocre.
Posted by: Katrina at August 6, 2011
I think they could've done alot better with the movies but they got the mesage in which is MOST important
Posted by: Luke at August 11, 2011
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