did they "observe" the God particle, or did they "create" the God particle? how nice to be able to create or observe a particle that is said to "give all the particles in the universe their mass." apparently few high energy physicists have been keeping up with their science fiction horror reading. i can think of all sorts of reasons not to fool with these things. simply put: the God particle gives particles mass; black holes need mass to grow; CERN-LHC creates micro-black holes, but they "evaporate"; but with the Higgs boson or God particle, well, there's the mass you need for a black hole not to evaporate!

We might just agree with that Jay, but it is human nature to know more about everything, even black holes! Good luck to them and to the rest of this world, I continuously pray for all of us! Tim-

About two thousand years ago, God revealed to Apostle Paul the "God Particle" in Colosians 1:17, "And he is before all things, and by him all things consists".. In Him, everything is held together, protected and prevented from disintegrating into chaos. Man is just discovering what God has created in God's time... as knowledge in increased in the last days - Daniel 12:4.. What an Awesome God!

I love the joke about a Higgs boson walking into church!

Jay Dillon not only is what you said completely false and made up but it is incredibly malicious and irresponsible. The LHC runs over 40 million times per second and has been running for over a year. Saying it is going to cause a black hole and destroy everything is just your way of spreading fear and ignorance. Shame on you.

I thank God That there is still people believe in him ,and not science that is all their life ,finally we are in God's hands . He is the one who allows us to discover what he created for us , and how it is extremely beautiful . Just going deeper in what he created to us must not let us forget him or giving him a side (that's our work or inventions).
Finally we are in a trip in that world and we must think of what after death of our body ,where will our souls go

God be all of us

As a believing polytheist, I object to the singular word 'God' used in scientific terminology, but I am so used to seeing words I revere used in demeaning, vulgar expressions ('Apollo' gas stations, 'Thor' comic books, etc.), that I can sympathize with monotheists disliking their own sacred word misused in this fashion.

Just read the first verse...in the bible
To know more......read the rest!

In the beginning, God created. Everything. Period. Why would a particle which creates be named after it's creator? Sounds ok to me.

we need to read many more pros and cons on this subject. the surface is just being scratched; please do not stop now pretending to understand fully the explanations that have been attempted.

I think it's harder to NOT believe there is a God than to BELIEVE there IS. Where did the big BANG come from? Ultimately there has to be SOME POWER that made it happen!

So God created everything and came from absolutely nothing? This is what you base everything on...... Christianity is the world's most famous example of "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours". If a God of any kind simply created everything and "allowed" us to discover things (that line cracks me up) but didn't offer us eternal bliss in heaven I've venture to guess far fewer would care to worship. Religion is only possible with the institution of fear. Divine? I think not. Clever business? I think so.

The level of scientific understanding here is pretty awful. The use of "God" in place of what this really is (maybe), the Higgs, was a mistake. It has nothing to do with religion. The Higgs is predicted by the Standard Model, which also has something to say about the big bang and the formation of the universe. It solves a key question of how particles actually get mass.

I think it's pretty dangerous to read one news report about this and then assume it's proof of your particular belief in how the universe works. Modern physics is amazing, but it can't really be deduced from reading the Bible.

@ lice Bentley... I think it's equally silly that the scientists use the rocks to date the fossil record, and the fossil record to date the rocks. Circular reasoning can be found of both sides. Oh, and I'm not afraid of my God. I love Him. Do you love, worship, and adore your science? BTW I don't think there cannot be Christ in science. Einstein was an adamant believer, and an amazing scientist. Science ultimately proves God. It's His creation you're studying... if you choose to close your eyes to it, then I feel sad for the joy your missing. That being said, you have the right to believe what you want, and I have the right to believe what I want. I'm not trying to change your mind. I'm just showing you that sane, rational people can see both sides as false. I choose to go with God. If I'm wrong, then I met some great people at church and I hopefully got to comfort and help out some people in need so no big deal. If I'm right... then WOW.

In the beginning God. In the end God. In between, your choice. Even so come quickly, Lord Jesus

Okay, maybe they've explained away another thing that was necessary for the explanation of how things happened. But they still haven't explained where the original God Particle came from. That detail is covered in the much older book they refer to in this article. "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth." Genesis doesn't say how God did these things ... just that he did them.

Science keeps focusing on the "how" while those of us with religious beliefs already know the "who".

If the universe began with the "Big Bang" then God was the "Big Banger."

Why are people so opposed to finding out about the nature of the universe? Isn't it a bit presumptuous and arrogant to state we already know "who" and to not care about "how"? Centuries ago, people already "knew" the world was flat. Come to find out, they were wrong.

I get a laugh out of these religious nuts. They are so funny.

First off, why bring religion into this conversation at all? Religion and science have nothing to do with each other. One is based on facts, and one is based on fiction.

Secondly, this "god particle" was responsible for forming the paper that your fictional bible was written on (and no, the god particle was not created by your imaginary friend, so give it up).

Believing in a god is like believing in Santa Claus. Eventually, you have to grow up and realize there is a scientific and tangible reason we all exist. These scientists will soon know where we REALLY came from.

Look at the bright side, once you denounce religion, you no longer have to live with the fear of going to "hell" for every little thing, and you can live life the way you want. Your "7 deadly sins" are not sins at all, but in fact, ways of life.

Hey Frank,
If you would examine all the evidence you would see there is plenty of proof to believe in God. Start by reading the book "Case for Christ" from Lee Stroebel who wrote it when he was an atheist.

Are'nt science and a belief in god the same thing. Don't they both require faith. A belief in things hoped for and a certainty of things unseen. Whats all the debate about. We all know that man has free will the ability to choose,. so choose and move on. Or look for something that explains why we have free will. Time will tell!!!!!

The word God is used before particle speaks of scientists helplessness to discover how life and other matter came into existence in the earth.Without the Creator no one can satisfy the quest of mankind.

Einstein was an atheist,

There is no proof that there is God. If there was a God and he wanted to be worshiped he would very well come and say so. So why are other humans trying to say there is a God? It's because they have no Idea how the universe was formed and life and the rest that we see around us, so a simple answer is, there was a creator and that was god. But then how did God come? he cannot come out of nothing.
The scientist are trying to unravel how the universe was formed and that's what we all like to know. The religious heads just try to go against this because tomorrow they may be out of business.

There were no word Religion in the universe, Its business subjectd by people, only the detector is universe, If we preserve the universe we live n also universe will live... Let us know what Really universe do? Not let the Religions speak we made universe.

Most Christians are not against science. This story is great and it should be read by any honest person! What it is irresponsible is for the scientific community to prove the rest of us that there is no God every time they feel amazed at the wonders on His creation. Christians are not afraid of science. On the contrary, we see the work of God equally in the so called 'God's particle' as well as in the flower or a bird.

I think the biggest faith is believing everything came about from a big explosion from a period. I mean, when we witness an explosion, eg: 911, we do not see creation, we see chaos. An explosion cannot create anything. No matter how many times I jump up and down on these nuts and bolts, even millions of millions of times---it will not create anything.

When we find a watch on the street, do we not assume that someone created it? Isn't our body, even our brain more obviously advanced than a watch?

Reading this article and the posts about it from believers, the only thing I am more in awe of than the universe and discoveries about it is the ability of religious people to overinterpret and to misinterpret a simple figure of speech. Everyone gets their bowels in an uproar because the terms "God" and "particle" are juxtaposed, whereas all Lederman was trying to do was make a point that would be transparently clear to anyone whose ability to scan a text had not been disabled by the sand of conservative / fundamentalist religion in their intellectual gearbox: the properties of the Higgs particle and it's associated quantum field are such as to determine the physical characteristics of all other particle. The Higgs has the god-like attribute of making all other particles what they are.

Sheesh! I would say that y'all Ned to read a lot more poetry, except that it would apparently be lost on you.

JRC

If you look at images generated by CERN LHC of the Higgs Boson being detected (by collisions of particles at very high velocity) you find that these images bear strong resemblance to the images prepared by computer simulation, of the accretion disks of black holes. This is quite a remarkable resemblance visually; and I think it is something to consider: If you consider that a black hole accretion disk is generated by matter falling inward at near light speed, through the event horizon etc., the black hole is acting as a very efficient collider in 4 dimensional spacetime, and is a more symmetrical type of collider than the CERN LHC is, because the black hole is centered on a "singularity" toward which all particles and objects are falling. Now the Higgs boson was theorized as a particle that "gives all particles and objects in the universe their mass" so the fact that the images of Higgs boson and black hole accretion disk are visually similar, makes me think that perhaps they have more than just visual similarity. This is worrisome to me, because it has always been a comfort to hear that the black holes that might arise at CERN LHC would be microscopic, if they arose, and would evaporate instantaneously if they arose. But with the HIggs boson now proven to exist and having been detected at CERN LHC, it seems to me that the combination of these two objects is not only possible but is perhaps inevitable, if not synonymous.

The Big Bang explosion is said to have originated from something like a "dimensionless point." In other words, the math/physics calculations by physicists "predict" backward into time, and "find" that the universe had its origin on the microscale, at a point so small that it is virtually unimaginable, much smaller than what we call subatomic particles. So, when it is argued that CERN LHC is working with very very small particles, this should not be taken as insignificant. It can be dangerous: The atomic bomb was originated using particle collider science and engineering. If two Higgs bosons are generated simultaneously at CERN LHC, in such a way that rotation occurs (one Higgs boson revolving around the other Higgs boson) you could have a configuration in which one Higgs boson cannot escape from the other, and both would move faster and faster and eventually annihilate each other at the speed of light. Moving particles to the speed of light is thought to require "infinite mass" which is what would be generated in this sort of Higgs vortex. The Higgs particles would continue to "give mass" to each other, as required for increasing velocity of revolution around one another. Anything in the immediate neighborhood, aka the Universe, would be destroyed, even if a new universe is created.

Anyway if all this is so safe to do, I suppose I could start experimenting on these things in my back yard, no one could object to such harmless experiments. I can start by hitting rocks together really fast, and go from there. I guess thats what we started with a while back anyhow.

Marvelous article and some decidedly interesting comments. Takes all kinds, I suppose. I think 'God Particle" is a brilliant name. I so enjoy observing science and delving deeper and deeper into God's mysteries and learning so much about our creation. I am struck with awe!

Mardy

Santa Clause? Of course the LORD has been called that- and a lot worse- by unregenerate people, of course. Romans 1puts these smartaleks on their place.