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August 24, 2008

Interfaith gathering interrupted by anti-abortionists

The start of the DNC's interfaith gathering was less than peaceful.

One man stood up and said, "Obama supports the murder of children by abortion." He was quickly booed and ushered out.

After the choir sang, another man stood up after a choir song and said, "Abortion is murder."

Between songs, a third man said, "Obama is a baby killer." The crowd began chanting "Obama. Obama. Obama."


Why pro-lifers, why? Really, I agree with a pro-life viewpoint, but that's not the way to get people to respect your opinion, let alone agree with you.

The message coming out of the Church from 80% of today's leaders, we are no longer under God's Commandments we are to obey the Law of the land. When a Nation removes the Commandments of God, there is no longer conviction of sin. (Romans-7-7) What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? God Forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the Law: for I had not known lusts, except the law had said, Thou shall not covet. Now that the people believe today's religious leaders who placed the people under the laws of the land, how can you now say, Thou shall not kill?

Quote many, We are not under the Law, we under Grace. Quote, Jesus died for all your past sins, all your present sins, and all of your FUTURE SINS? (Romans-6-1) What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that Grace might abound? (2) GOD FORBID. How can we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Woe unto today's religious leaders!

God's Beautiful Grace: (Hebrews-10-16) This is the Covenant that I will make with them after those days saith the Lord, I will put My Laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them.

(Romans-2-12) For as many as have sinned without the law (today's religion) shall also PERISH without the law: And as many as have sinned in the Law shall be Judge by the Law.
(13) For not the hearer of the law are Just before God, but the Doers of the Law shall be Justified.

Take a good look at the Religion of America! (11Peter-2-18) For when they speak great swelling words of Vanity. they allure through the lusts of the flesh, (justified future sins) through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in Error. (20) For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the Knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. (21) For it had been better for them not to have known the Way of Righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the HOLY COMMANDMENTS DELIVERED TO THEM. (22) But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, THE DOG IS TURNED AGAIN TO HIS OWN VOMIT AGAIN, and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. Fruits of their Religion is now seen across this Nation.

(1John-3-5) And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins; and in Him is no sin. (6) Whosoever abides in Him Sins Not; whosoever sins has not seen Him, neither Known Him.

(1Peter-4-17) For the time is come that Judgment must begin at the House of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the End be of them that Obey not the Gospel of God? (18) And if the Righteous Scarcely be Saved, where shall the ungodly and the SINNER Appear?
(Romans-11-20-22) The church has been the past and will be the future of America, we need not look for the Government to change this Nation.

Respect opinon / respect life? Respect opinion / respect life? Respect opinion / respect life? Respect opinion / defeat a pro-abortion candidate? I'll take: defeat a pro-abortion candidate.

The Bible does not say that life begins at conception. In Exodus 21:22-23 says that if two men fight and the woman has a miscarriage the men pay a fine to the husband, but if the woman is hurt or dies "it shall be eye for an eye."(NRSV) By this we see that the life of the living woman was more important than the unborn fetus. The fact of the matter is that we really don't know when life begins during the pregnancy. But we do know that the woman that is pregnant is alive, so top priority goes to the woman, by order of Moses.

Ok Larry, the abortion debate isn't about the value of an unborn child vs an adult, or child vs mother. The question is at what point in the process of conception is the result considered human? God says He knew us before he laid the foundations of the earth, and that He knits us together in our mothers womb.
I find it ironic that in the UK recently a teenage girl aborted her baby at 22 weeks, and the same day a premature baby of 22 weeks was being saved by modern medicine.
Murder is murder, sin is sin. Abortion is both, but it's an issue with the hearts of men.
I don't think that the president of the USA should answer any question by saying that it's 'above my pay grade'.
When will the apathetic Church stand up?
Hmm, when will the Church stand period?

Pete, the fact, for 12 years Congress was Controlled by the Republican Party, eight of those 12 years, a Republican President, why did they not stop the killing of the most helpless of mankind, the unborn baby? Talk without actions gets us Nowhere. What evidence do you have John McCain or Obama could make a difference in the future? Killing is killing, in the abortion center or in a War, created by the President. The CHURCH, as well as Government has gotten so Far from God and His Word, leaving the people without conviction as to right or wrong in God's Eyes.

Who does God Blame? The Book of Malachi, speaks to Religious Leaders (Not Government) to whom God made His Promise to Bless a Nation, (3-12) it's sad that the people of America have been so deceived, they haven't realized, False Religious Leaders across this Nation have caused the Great Fall of America!

The above statement should have been, Republican Party had contol over Congress for 12 years, 5 years, a Demoncrat President, 7 years a Republican President. We need to Stop blaming the Government, because the same Religious Leaders who deceived the Church, has also deceived them. (Malachi-3-6-18)

Saying that Republicans controlled either the White-House or the Congress is shameless deception or ignorance. The only people inside the U.S. that have the power to change the law are Supreme Court Justices. Since Bush has been in office 8 years (he will have when it's all said and done) He has had the opportunity to appoint two Supreme Court justices (which only the Senate can check by defeating the appointments) (so 50+1+5=56. 56 people decide whether unrestrained abortion should be U.S. policy. This is wrong). One appointment replaced a conservative jurist and one replaced a liberal jurist. So, the balance shifted from 6-3 to 5-4. So in order to make any progress on changing the law, we must have a conservative in the White House over the next eight years, or possibly longer since appointments are for life and no liberal jurist will retire when the balance is 5-4 so long as a conservative is in the White House, to effect change. The O.T. is replete with references that it is God that opens and closes the womb. Combine that with "What God hath joined together let no man put asunder" and it could not be clearer that abortion is wrong.