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September 19, 2008

Pro-life group attacks Obama campaign faith tour

The president of the Susan B. Anthony List attacked Barack Obama campaign's new effort to reach religious voters in battleground states.

"Barack Obama knows his extreme record on abortion doesn't resonate with everyday American voters, so now he's trying to soften his image with a so-called 'values tour,'" President Marjorie Dannenfelser said in a statement. "It is cynical - because religious language without the actions to support it is so transparently empty. If you can't save one of the 'least of these' - a dying baby who survives an abortion - because you see it as a 'burden,' one wonders who is really at the heart of your faith."

The Susan B. Anthony List will invest $6 million to target 1.4 million pro-life women voters through mail, radio, and phone-banking across eight battleground states: Colorado, Ohio, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, New Mexico, New Hampshire and Pennsylvania.

Comments

Wow, Sarah
That's really rather subtle!
Thanks for helping out in the new "Every copulation should bring a child campaign."
And everyone that disagrees with us can just go sign up for capital punishment--one of our other compassion initiatives.
Thanks again...
John

Funny, if these groups are so anti-abortion, how come they continue to support abstinence-only sex education, despite overwhelming evidence that it doesn't work, that it leads to more unwanted pregnancies and therefore more abortions?

Do evangelicals really oppose abortion because of their supposed regard for life? Or do they just want to keep intact a valuable firewall against people doing the nasty?

Why are there so many liberals reading this site? Isn't it enough to read NY Times etc.?
Shame on you liberal! Do you want to kill babies since they become a burden and marry your same-sex partner since you love him/her?

Good comeback Budi. Not.

OBAMA = BETRAYAL
Obama supporters are foolish to think that he will never betray them.
Obama was a close friend of Pastor Wright for TWENTY YEARS.
Obama threw Wright under the bus for personal ambition.
McCain would not betray his country even after 5 years of torture.
You can put lipstick on a traitor, but he's still a traitor.

I think I missed what the 'least of these' comment was from and why it is a 'burden'. I love God and I trust He leads each of us down the right path and I have faith that He has a plan behind allowing each of us, His children, to be so different in opinion.

I trust He wants every life to come into this world out of love. I am very much pro-life, for my life, but do believe that some women should be allowed to choose life for themselves - and that is how I see pro-choice, not to be forced a life but to choose it. For my dearest of friends who have had abortions (3 of them, each for different reasons) I trust He spoke to them and I have forgiven them, even though one has not been able to forgive herself. I know that if the doctor could not have done that legally, two of my friends would have been forced much more dangerous options. I am thankful they are alive and healthy and active today. One is preparing to start her family now and is due to give birth in just 3 months!

To choose our country's leader based on this one issue is to look through tunnel vision. God does not judge us based on one thought, one act, one trait we hold, but on our overall selves, decisions, and lives. He is the only one to pass judgement upon us. He allows us to make mistakes and then reconcile them, for He knows we will learn and take the right path after a mistake, for if we do not learn and continue to make the same mistakes, then He will not allow us into His Heaven.

I trust that Mrs Palin and Mr McCain have strong faith in God. Though it has been proven time and time again that they have lied, then lied about lying. They have not learned from a sin forgiven, for they continue with the same sin. This is what I believe. I fear a leader of our country to lie to us and lie to us and lie to us some more. I fear Mr McCain and Mrs Palin would skew God's word to their own wants and needs and not that of the people of this great country - God's Country. I do not believe Mr Obama would betray this country but would listen to the needs of the people and make the best decision based on his knowledge. I believe God talks to Mr Obama and that he will take guidance from Him.

With all due respect, I allow myself to disagree with Ms Dannenfelser.

May God grant His wish upon His Country.

OUR WHOLE LIVES ARE FULL OF CHOICES. EACH PERSON NEEDS TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS AND HER CHOICES. THAT IS IT! WHETHER YOU LIKE THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR CHOICE OR NOT, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE. MOST PREGNANCY IS BY CHOICE. VERY FEW ARE NOT THE CHOICE OF THE TWO PEOPLE INVOLVED. THE MISUSE OF SEX, THAT IS HAVING SEX WITHOUT THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT GOES WITH IT, IS A PROBLEM IN THIS SOCIETY.
THE PRINCIPLES IN GOD'S WORD, WERE GIVEN TO US OUT OF HIS GREAT LOVE FOR US, NOT TO DENY US ANYTHING THAT IS GOOD. THERE IS SUCH A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING WHO GOD IT, THAT OUR DECEITFUL HEARTS HAVE MADE HIM OVER IN OUR IMAGE. LOVE WENT TO THE CROSS FOR US. WHY CAN'T WE GET OVER OURSELVES AND MAKE RIGHT CHOICES? HIS GRACE AND MERCY IS THERE, TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CONSEQUENCES OF OUR DISOBEDIENCE. LET'S NOT PILE ON MORE DISOBEDIENCE FOR OUR OWN CONVENIENCE AND SELFISH HEARTS.

Stacy,

I can see both sides of almost every issue. But I can't see the pro-choice arguement at all. If is very offensive to me. You can reason out almost anything the way you want to, and somehow liberals have arrived at this honorable "woman's choice" idea, and completely ignore that fact that humans are being massacred.

I am also insulted with your comment about "being forced into dangerous options." Um, nobody would force anybody to have an illegal abortion. I could understand maybe being forced to have the child! What an idea!

You said your friends haven't been able to forgive themselves. You hit an important point there. Most (if not all) women experience regret from having abortions. So, if nothing positive comes out of having abortions, why have them?

I am tired of pregnant women who want to abort getting special treatment. If I stole something from somebody, I would be thrown into jail before you could snap your fingers. But if somebody irresonsibly gets pregnant, we role out the red carpet for them to have an abortion!

3200 abortions happen every day in our country. This is outrageous! Yes, I am going to continue to vote on this one issue. The total number of people getting killed in the Iraq War doesn't even come close to this figure.

As long as the Democrats remain stubborn and ignore the abortion issue, I will continue to vote on this one issue. If the Democrats work to get the abortion issue under control, it will free up a lot of voters like me to potentially vote Democratic.

Well then, let me just tell you. Stacy's a fabrication. Has to be. Said a lot of great stuff. Feel good Christaneese all over the place.
If you really believe it's murder, then there's no "should be allowed to choose for themselves". You can't choose to kill your kid after they're born, nobody argues with that. So if it IS murder you can't justify it. And if it's NOT murder, you don't have to, get all the abortions you want.

Stacy,
I am sure you are well intentioned, but you have to have a backbone when it comes to protecting the life of the most vulnerable. Jesus wasn't too happy with His disciples when they tried to shoo the children from Him. He said "Suffer not the little children to come to me". If he reprimanded them for this what do you think His reaction would be to abortion? I know you don't want to hurt your friends feelings so you compromise, but you don't have to compromise or hurt their feelings. They are as much the victims as the child is. This is the political game, you don't want to hurt the feelings of others so you allow anything so they don't have to face the truth. Just why do your friends feel guilt, because someone else is opposed to abortion or because the laws of God are written on their hearts? I use to be just like you, unwilling to take a stand for truth so as not to upset those that need the truth (in love) most. You aren't doing them a favor by pandering. God can and will forgive them only when they realize what they have done, just like when I asked for forgiveness and do daily for my sins. Do better for them.

This is what happens when schools stop teaching logic, Greek philosophy and Natural Law Theory - all the basis of Western Civilization.

Prof. Helen. Not sure I get your point. Are you saying you are just smarter than others?

I CHOOSE life, especially for those babies who will be cared-for. . .I also choose life for all the innocent victims of war. . .many of whom have been carelessly killed in the name of "just war". . .

These groups get off on the power trip of their cause. I respect it, but I also am reasonable. Obama says he does not support gay marriage. Many states are allowing it, so he's representing the people. His views on pro-choice, he knows how tragic alley way style abortions will become. We're not all Christian, and the president has to realize that and represent the people, not just our desires and opinions.
I also think McCain has so many voters wrapped around his finger. I think subconciously people dislike Obama because, well, he's different, AND for his political views, while failing to fully evaluate their own candidate. I was for Ron Paul, that went south, so I'm with Obama now. Deep down I feel he's more sincere, rejected a six figure salary job out of college, WITH LOANS, to work as a community organizer. McCain- left his wife who was waiting for him, arrogant and we can bet he'll circumvent Congress like good ol George, is rich, really rich, and falsely represents himself and his actions. C'mon, how many times will you lie about the other lie?

May I suggest that the best Christians in general should do at present, is to completely stay out of Politics; especially so, as never before has it been more true in today's politics, as stated so well by none other than Ronald Reagasn when he summarized politics in this way: "It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears astriking resemblance to the first". So, what is the difference between Obama and McCain when it comes to morality in general? On the one hand Obama seems to be impecable as to husband and father; yes he most certainly in reality is, in line with what most even Christians practice themselves as to abortion. How about McCain who married his present chick only a month after divorcing his lawfully married wife, while most certainly must have had and adulterous good time in the meenatime, when besides his stand on the secredness of human life is questionable at best. In summary my dear fellow Christians: Please get on your knees and ask God to forgive your waywardness and start truly living the Biblical Christian life style. Yes, most certainly as to God's ordained mandate to procreate and get rid of all the contraception stuff which is the greatest silent cheapener of human values, while sex practiced evermore below the dumb animal kingdom. Making this nation in reality the most Pagan nation ever, while claiming to be under God and says it trust God. Yes, while Satan dances and smiles from ear to ear?

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I'm seeing comment re:abstinence only not working. Bologna. Before the 'sexual revolution' (of degredation) that's WHAT THERE WAS. People taught kids that they were to be socially responsible minimally! Irresponsible sex was SCORNED by culture largely. Because people KNEW that people should be ready for possible consequences BEFORE having sex. (And should be checked for disease they might spread and keep all sex in marriage thereafter.) Compare the abortion rates. The divorce rates. It's idiotic to claim it didn't work. Praise God we have a baseline of comparison so we don't have to just listen to hand-wavers like this make outrageous claims.

Furthermore though, the 'safe-sex' fraud has caused a whole generation to fall into the pattern of thinking they're just having casual sex (while fracturing the spiritual connection God intended it to revolve around...) which EVENTUALLY results in either a disease being spread and/or unwanted pregnancy. What a demonic lie. Safe-sex is an oxymoron outside marriage.