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How disappointing I wish it was the other way round. So evangelicals believe all those lies from McCain/Sarah Palin. Below are the lies:

1.That Obama is a moslem, FALSE.
2.That Obama is a domestic terrorist, FALSE.
3.That Joe the Plumber earns more than $250.000 annually, hence he will not benefit from Obama's tax plan,FALSE. THE TRUTH is that Joe the Plumber earns less than $40,000 and will benefot more from Obama's tax cut.McCain never tells us this.
4.That Obama is a socialist, FALSE.
5.That Iraq is the center of terrorism and not Al-queada in Parkistan.Forgetting that Saddam Hussein killed the number three Al-Queada man when he escaped from Parkistan to seek refuge in Iraq before the invasion of Iraq.
6.That this election is about Obama as championed by McCain rather than the Bush failed policies and the way forward.
7.That morality is limited to abortion snd homosexuality.
8. That irrespective of who or what the issues are, evangelicals must always vote republican.
9. That there is "real America" and "pro-America".
10.That patriotism is only seen in people "like us".
All these are lies by McCain/Palin ticket and yet evangelicals believe them!

Posted by: fonzi at October 30, 2008

It is sad over 20% evangelicals are duped by Obama. No Christian should be. Here's why (I gave a similar response to Charisma magazine):

*a Vote for Obama = a vote for Christian persecution (e.g. Obama will vote in h@te laws & appoint judges, including Supreme Court Justices, against true Christians. Anti-Christian gays, ACLU lawyers, cults, occultists and others will be empowered against Christians. Obama will have little accountability with non-Christians Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi running Congress, with possible super majorities, 125 in the House, 60 in the Senate. Obama may bring us under an anti-Christian European or World Court System as well. Obama may disclose UFOs are real with a purpose to undermine Christianity)
*a Vote for Obama = an act of Christian apostasy (and that includes Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell & Derrick W. Hutchins. Their support is beyond ignorance. Apostasy is forecasted in the last days)
*a Vote for Obama = a vote for US economic turmoil & social an@rchy (oil prices & taxes & unemployment will go up, wealthy will take money out of stock market with increased capital gains taxes, positive Christian influence will be subdued, value of US dollar will decline, anti-Christian socialism/communism will increase, companies will lay off workers, Obama will try to prevent gun ownership, gas could hit $8/gal, etc.)
*a Vote for Obama = a vote for r@cism (many blacks and politically correct multi-cultural brainwashed youth and women are voting for Obama because of race, not policy; this is r@cism. Obama is polarizing, not unifying. Probable race riots will ensue. Thuggish, racist, and misogynist rap/hip-hop music will grow even more. Political correctness and affirmative action will increase damaging Christianity & America )
*a Vote for Obama = a vote for an anti-Christian New World Order (remember Obama's pro New World Order "world citizen" speech in Germany & his refusal to put his hand on his chest during the national anthem? Pro NWO anti Christian wealthy elites like George Soros support Obama)
*a Vote for Obama = a vote for an Occult New Age Anti-Christian World syncretistic religion (new age utopians, like Oprah, strongly support Obama as well as new age channelers and their channeling spirits. Many of these Obama supporting new age occult mediums channel the same spirits, e.g. Kuthumi or St. Germain, as theosophist H.P Blavatsky in the 1800s who helped with the foundation of N@ziism)


Evanglical Christian former pastor and politician Mike Huckabee adds the following reasons to not vote for Obama: "Just Imagine Obama as President and Democrats holding majorities in the House and with a possible 60 vote margin Senate.
1. Goodbye, 2nd amendment rights
2. Goodbye, protection for the unborn
3. Goodbye, diligence against state sponsored terro#ism from rogue governments like Iran, North Korea, and others.
4. Goodbye, parental rights a fundamental right to not be supplanted by the government
5. Goodbye, holding traditional marriage as one man, one woman for life."


Thus, McCain will get my vote and he should get every true Christian's vote. Besides being a US loving American military hero, he reached out to Evangelical Christians by chooosing Sarah Palin.


Obama is either a (1) backslidden very-lukewarm Christian believing in multiple paths to God (which rejects Jesus' own words in John 14:6 "Jesus said, 'I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father except through me') (2) a cultish Christian believing in a false black liberation theology which embraces a false revolutionary racist Jesus, (3), a dissociative identity disorder due to childhood trauma when his dysfunctional Father deserted him, or (4) is a lying Muslim since Muslims are commanded to lie to defeat infidels, or a combination of the above.

(4) is doubtful but possible since he did say "my Muslim faith" in an interview. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg7aD8M I've never heard of a Christian making that mistake. Mix that with a Muslim roomates when younger (Imad Husain, Mohammed Hasan Chandoo, Wahid Hamid, Sohale Siddiqi), a trip to Pakistan in his college days, wearing Muslim garb in Africa, possible support from a Racial Muslim for Harvard college fees (Khalid al-Monsour), family members who are Muslim, supporting a pro-Islamic politician in Africa (Raila Odinga) which has already influenced the killin@ of Christians there (see: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76861 ), belonging to a church that gave Nation of Islam racist Louis Farrakhan an award, etc., it is a possibility. One Christian black friend of mine is convinced Obama is a Muslim in disguise.
(1) is more probable but doubtful since he is the most liberal member of Congress. Besides his anti-Christian multiple path universalism, many of his pro-liberal policies, such as his radical pro-abortion policies, spit in the face of Jesus. When running against a vocal Christian African American Alan Keyes in Chicago (who I voted for once), Keyes & the moderator stated that Jesus would not even vote for Obama because of his far left views and radical left anti-Christian leaning friends and supporters. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md2bf9DNVB4 Obama is beyond Christian lukewarmness. His bad judgement in choosing friends, his anti-Christian policy support, and the type of supporters he garnishes proves he's is probably not a true Christian.
(3) is a possibility since he clearly comes from a hyper dysfunctional family with severe generational curses. His father deserted him when he was about two and his mother was like a wandering qausi-hippie who had an obsession with dark-skinned men (Obama admitted to using this obsession many women have with intelligent black men in his campaig. Children from two dysfunctional generational lines usually turn out a mess unless born again, filled with the Holy Spirit, and delivered from demonic oppression. Obama is probably none of these. Parents who desert their children can cause DID, formerly known as multiple personality disorder. In this case one personality could be pro-black liberation theology, another pro-Islamic, etc. Many successful people have DID. Satan/Lucifer, himself who seems to struggle with DID, is trying to create as many DIDs as possible since he can control people easier this way.
(2) Is the most likely. Before continuing peruse this Website detailing Black Liberation theology where many of them say they, the blacks, are the true Jews and Caucasians/Whites (inluding those in Israel) are really cursed Edomites: http://www.theisraelofgodatl.com/Lost%20tribes%20of%20Israel.htm Obama is probably a false Christian in a cult or quasi-cult whose false doctrinal tentacles reach out mainly to blacks and people of color in mostly white influential areas. They clearly ignore whites/Caucasians being oppressed in Hawaii, Africa, the Orient, etc. and generalize most whites as wealthy and oppressive when that is clearly not the case. The reality is that wealthy white people are usually under heavy internal (mental, spiritual, etc.) oppression. Christians have not done enough research on the huge cult-oriented black liberation theology (I found one article at: http://home.earthlink.net/~ronrhodes/BlackTheology.html ) and how many churches it influences, inluding Obama's 20 year church run by Jeremiah Wright with radical guest speaker Father Flager and award recipient ultra racist Nation of Islam Louis Farrakhan, who speaks of Obama as the world's savior rather than Jesus. Must See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha5HEc-vOJs


Related personal story: When I visited a popular Starbucks in Las Vegas a few years ago, just as Obama was growing in popularity, I sat next to a person of color wearing a "I Love Jesus" cap on. Keep in mind, I believe in the Biblical flood story where all races come from Noah. Obama probably believes in evolution and only a local flood which are underlying reasons for much of today's r@cism. Anyways, the Starbucks man had a $2500 laptop he said his g*rlfriend bought him. He was attending UNLV. After talking a while, I learned he was clearly a fake Christian. His talk was filled with swear words and false doctrine and se@ual crudeness. He went on and on about how the 'people of color' are the true Jews, just like the article link above, and how all whites are really decendents of the Cursed Edomites. I said that was ridiculous and that practicing persecuted Jews the world over looked upon favor upon the re-creation of Israel and many migrated there and died defending it. He told me the Jews in Israel are not the true Jews since most are Caucasian. He also stated that Jesus was a 'person of color' who came to set the captives free, that is the Blacks and other minorites or oppressed people. He then showed me several Websites related to this cultish Christianity. I said what is important is that Jesus came to set 'any who believe in Him' free, including wealthy whites and give them salvation, not just 'people of color'. Apparently since whites are cursed Edomites they don't get the offer of salvation unless they hold to Black/minority liberation theology. Although I don't adhere to the following, just to get his goat, I showed him Websites detailing that Anglo-Saxons and other whites are the probably lost tribes of Israel, one reason being that Paul traveled to European regions first. He was upset. The next night, I saw him again, but I did not talk or sit next to him because his 'person of color' gir@friend lacking prudence was with him. She acted drunk and was sitting on his lap doing very inappropriate actions in publc all the while her racist black liberation theology boyfriend was still wearing his 'I Love Jesus' cap. Later I learned Obama believes in some or all of the same beliefs as the Starbucks' black liberation theology 'I love Jesus' guy.


In a possible future post, I may talk more about Obama's support from new age channelers, about a Berkeley professor I had once who looked forward to a coming persecution of Christians after he would not let me write a paper comparing the new age movement with n@ziism, and how I and a friend had a miraculous prophetic experience about a coming persecution of believers in the West causing them to go underground before a pre-tribulational rapture..even if you don't believe in a rapture, the signs are there Obama will be a nightmare during a world recession when Israel is about to bomb Iran. Conclusion: don't vote for Obama, but if he is elected and your are a true Christian not going apostate, pray for him and prepare to go underground and be ready for Jesus' return.

Posted by: Ezekiel at October 30, 2008

I am an Independent and I had a chance to view both rallies and this is the "Spirit" I saw.

GOP rally.
1. Division
2. Lies
3. False Accusations
4. Hatred
5. One dominant race

Democratic rally.
1. Laughter
2. Unity
3. Excitement
4. White, Black, Asian, Latino
5. The Future

And you tell me that the GOP is the Spirit of God. I think not. I voted Republican in the last 4elections and look where it has gotten us. Even from a world standard they cannot stand our nation...Barack is not perfect, but, he has the right Spirit to be used by God....I am a Christian and I am proud to be voting for Barack Obama.

Posted by: james at November 2, 2008

Sarah,
You are making some very strong accusations yet are providing nothing but generalizations...no facts, anecdotes, etc... Have you forgotten 'the least' and the protection that Obama chooses not to provide for them...isn't an unborn child's life worth a mention by you? And can you tell me how many times we have been attacked on U.S. soil since 9/11? ZERO.

And just where has the GOP "gotten us"?

I think you've become the victim of an Obama media "blitz"...

Posted by: Lisa at November 3, 2008

The above comments by James are sad and mistaken.
I cannot remember a time when someone who has claimed to be Christian, who claims to be a person of principle has changed their associations, their perspectives, and stories so many times in such an opportunistic way (to please the media and diffuse any issues, flip/flop and take BOTH positions on many issues and nobody will know where you really stand, right?)

Jesus said he came to bring the sword of the Spirit. This sword divides the light from the darkness and convicts of sin and unrighteousness. In Barack's all encompassing vision of "unity", he has voted to deny life and legal protection to children who are born alive after an attempted abortion! What type of Godliness or love of Jesus or work of the Spirit results in such an radical view? Is this the type of unity to which you ascribe -- unity in a moral abyss?

C'mon James, get a grip, this is not the Spirit of God at work, but of Abaddon (???????), "destruction" - that which comes to ‘steal, kill and destroy’ takes innocent lives without regard for truth and denies hope to the innocent life that God gave in the womb. Barack's perspective on life is certainly not of Christ nor of the Spirit, but of the cast down ruler of this world!

Posted by: Miguel at November 3, 2008

“7 Reasons Why Barack Obama is not a Christian”

Reason #1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4cMB8ktCT8
Reason #2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHlelAui5fs
Reason #3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEYeDGOW83I&feature=related
Reason #4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzpvlY9BVrY&feature=related
Reason #5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA9D9_x9bgY&feature=related
Reason #6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQMqylEt-Rw&feature=related
Reason #7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxHdDQDgxQ0&feature=related

Posted by: Chickengrease at November 4, 2008

James, remember we fight against principalities and powers of the air. Plus, we as Christians don't vote for a person who has publicly made fun of the WORD OF GOD the whole basis of our beliefs. Doesn't make sense that God would want us to murder his creations, so what about Obama's plan abolish all laws that protect the unborn. You are deceived. That would be the "SPIRIT" you should SEE working with Obama.

Posted by: ebbie at November 4, 2008

"if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and will heal their land." 2Chronicles 7:14
This takes Christians not Anti-christs, ask God for His wisdom and take to heart this scripture from HIS word. Remember
prophecies from the Bible have come true with more coming...

Posted by: Hope at November 4, 2008

As an agnostic, I find it offensive when people want THEIR faith to become law. Personally, I find the Bible offensive. There is so much blatant sexism and violence in the text it's hard for me to really find anything about it relevant to my life or worthwhile. As a feminist, I would not want to expose my children, especially daughters to Christianity, outside of an academic context, because of the complete lack of positive role models for women. I also feel that God should be gender neutral - not male, or female. For these reasons, I hope specific religious beliefs are waning - and people accept more global beliefs such as unitarian universalism. I respect a person's right to worship Christianity, but expect people to respect my agnosticism and values.

Posted by: Meaningful Revisions at November 4, 2008