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October 30, 2008

Poll: How Pastors Will Vote

A little over half (53 percent) of Protestant pastors plan to vote for John McCain compared with 20 percent who plan to vote for Barack Obama, a new poll suggests. A full 22 percent were undecided in the LifeWay Research poll conducted October 10-28.

Sixty-six percent of self-identified evangelical pastors plan to vote for McCain while 13 percent are for Obama and 19 percent are undecided. A recent Pew Center survey suggested that 67 percent of evangelicals plan to vote for McCain while 24 are for Obama.

Among mainline pastors, 36 percent plan to vote for McCain, 37 percent support Obama, and 24 percent are undecided.

Fifty-three percent of Protestant pastors said that they have personally endorsed candidates for public office this year, but outside of their church roles. Less than 3 percent said that they have endorsed candidates during a church service this year.

This is what surprised Ed Stetzer, director of LifeWay Research, a polling organization associated with the Southern Baptist Convention.

1. Self identified "mainline" pastors not more pro-Obama (they were split).
2. A sizeable minority of pastors are still undecided.
3. A majority [of] pastors endorsed candidates outside of their church role.

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I'm so naive. I thought being a pastor was a 24-7 calling, not something for which one punches time cards.

Laurie, conservative pastors are very likely to vote for McCain, moderate pastors are about evenly split between the two candidates, or haven't yet made up their minds for whom to vote. Presumably, liberal pastors will probably vote for Obama.

A little more than half of the pastors polled punched out of their church's time clocks and endorsed candidates off church property, while a few told their flock for whom they should vote. I can't imagine why everyone in the latter churches didn't all walk out.in protest. That just isn't done.

I am very disappointed but am not surprise at all on How the pastors will vote. It truly replects on the spiritual conditions of the churches today especially among the mainline churches. We really need the body of Christ to pray just like in 1850's for revival across the land. We all called to lift up the name of Jesus and not be divided among ourselves. After all don't we have the same Holy Spirit that is suppose to make us as one body?

There is a long-standing tradition of pastors making political recommendation in black churches. This reflects an important and praiseworthy distinctive of these congragations; the church being an important center for members' whole life - social, educational, and, yes, political. Were we members of one of these churches, I would expect to hear our pastor's election recommendation.

And there is also a growing trend for the pastors of some very "red" churches to recommend canidates. This was most noticeable during the Regan / Carter election, when many of these conservative pastors urgeed their flocks to vote for a very nominal Christan, and against a committed Sunday school teacher. . . .

As members of a "main line" denomination, I agree with Gregory - if our pastor, or any other member of our staff, recommended a specific canidate, I would be offended (even if s/he recommeded "my" canidate), and would consider walking out of that service, because in our tradition, as Gregory says, "that just isn't done."

YOU CANNOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES VOTE FOR SOMEONE WHO
WILL FOSTER UNTOLD ABORTIONS ON THE WORLD

Pastors dont punch in and out on a time clock. Those who are true shepherds of Gods flock are never off, because pastoring is their life. They work tirelessly, tend to the needs of their flock all hours of the night and do more in their roles then most can imagine. However, some have taken a stance of not promoting a candidate because of the possiblity of losing their tax exempt status for their ministries.

As far as who you should vote for, consider this. What does the bible say about the role of government? What traits are found in biblical godly leaders?

For the first question, Rom 13 is a good text. Our government should do 3 things. Promote good. Prohibit bad. And punish evil.
Comparing the two candidates record on the most basic fundamental human right, protecting life, and Gods institution of marriage. Senator Obama voted for the most liberal law of abortion on demand and voted against the born alive act which would save babies the aurvived failed abortion attempts. He also say he is pro family, but has passed many pro homosexual laws, and even wrote a congratulatory letter to the head of the lesbian/gay/bisexxual/trangender union in California congratulation them on their victory in California and getting married. McCain is against both abortion and gay marriage and his record shows that.
Hope that helps you to glorify His holy name as you look to be salt in using your obligation to vote.

I voted early today. I cast my vote for Sen. Obama. I encouraged my congregation (which is made up of Republicans and Democrats) to vote holistically not just considering one issue. Far to often one hot button issue has been misused to evoke an emotional reaction. We must necessarily act rather than react. I encouraged my congregation for the past several weeks to look at the candidates and the propositions with their spiritual eyes, as the candidates and propositions relate to society on the whole. I reminded them that regardless of who they cast their vote for that God was on the throne, and to pray for His will here and now, moment by moment.

Can evangelicals sit back apathetic while seeing their churches being treated as pawns of the Republican Party which associated itself with the wealthiest? Can we sit back allowing a political party to blaspheme our faith over and over again, by cheating us into an unjust war that costed lives of thousands, by alienating the least privileged whom our Lord commands us to care for, by using political tactics that is so affront to our moral conviction...

Does the racist shout of "off with his head" in the midst of Ms. Palin's distorting and inflammatory speech met with any moral indignation from this magazine?

Why are poverty, social justice, and economic equality not an moral issue? By ignoring that, Are the Christian leaders distorting the teaching of Jesus Christ?

SHOULDN'T THE EVANGELICAL LEADERS BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES!!!!

We need change in our churches, not for the doctrine, but for the Reaganite alliance between church leaders and politicians, which is the root cause of the on-going marginalization of American Christianity.

First of all, I don't believe God favors any party. Both parties have biblical and non-biblical practices. I believe that God favors His divine will. Therefore, be careful what you preach in your pulpit you could be going against God's divine will.

There are reasons that Evangelicals are splitting this time.
Look at Palin's record; the $150000 wardrobe already says who she is. She loves fame, money, and status. Spending $6000 to buy a bag for her girl says who she is. This is the beginning of corruption. Do we have enough corruption?? Or do we think it does not hurt to have one more!!!
McCain with such a VP running mate, I cannot vote for him.
McCain's fail to pick a right VP has put Evangelicals at an odd position. We have open eyes can see that Palin does not fit for the position. Evangelicals vote for McCain/Palin ticket mostly is because of the abortion/gay-marriage struggles. I cannot vote for McCain, but will vote yes on proposition #8.

I am appalled at the Way Evangelicals have picked on ONE idea to justify not voting for Obama - the issue of Abortion.

Mr. Obama DID NOT introduce the concept of ROE VS WADE - this was decided long before his time.

The Evangelicals have responded to this issue by hate filled speech, terrorist acts against abortion clinics and staff, all in the name of "GOD" .The very same GOD who exhorts us to not call his name in vain.

Nor have Republicans in office done anything to lessen the number of abortions, nor alleviate the burden of the mother (willing or unwilling) who is faced with the prospect of bringing new life into the world. If she is black, she knows already that her child is worth NOTHING in America...

I am appalled at how easily they forget G. Gordon Liddy, Charles Keating and a host of others, as they revile Obama for, in the immortal words of Sarah Palin "palling around with terrorists"

I am appalled that they can think GOD can more easily forgive McCain for a lifetime of sexual immorality, than HE can forgive Obama for being black, born in Hawaii and knowing a former "terrorist"

I am appalled that they can NEVER remember that John McCain was born in a foreign country - PANAMA. And that they can justify HIM being American, while trying to deny Senator Obama his citizenship.

When one considers the positives of a President Obama:
- his calm reasoned temperament
-his devotion to ONE Wife
-his performance as a Father
-his ability to meet with and have discourse with even the "worst" of these
-his ability to see the other side of a conflict
-his ability, just by his DNA to truly represent ALL the people in America,
-his professed Christian Faith - which he does not FORCE UPON
a multiplicity of races, religions existing in America today
-his "lamb to the slaughter" demeanor
-his absolute control of the most expansive campaign machine in modern history
-his ability to draw new voters
- his lack of drama- no rumors of tensions in his camp because he loves and respects and therefore empowers his team to do what needs to be done within the parameters of campaign rules and values
- his high level of intellect
-his ability to seek ( and take) advice

I really wonder at what Churches are teaching these days.
How could John McCain compete?

I have taken a decision that based on the behavior of CHRISTIANS during this campaign, I will be seeking a religion whose GOD is my color.

Yes, because there is NO WAY, partial birth abortion is the reason Evangelicals are voting AGAINST Obama. It is racism, pure and simple.

So Pastor Hagee, Ron Parsley, Billy Graham and all the others who taught me about GOD and whose correspondence I eagerly received - thank you and GOODBYE.

This time around, if God wants me, He will have to find me. IF He exists for other than white people, then He will.

No Christian pastor in America could convince me that an eternity in heaven with such as they are, is worth it.

I am with some of you who say that God doesn't particularly favor a certain party, but as Christians, we must look at what the Bible says is truth, and fight for that truth in Government as much as possible. If we don't have Christian leaders standing up for what is right, then who will? Government is at the base of our daily lives, which we take for granted. How can we sit back and let others decide how to run this country? How can we vote for Obama knowing what he believes, who he is associated with, and how he votes? Looking at both the candidates, I can tell you that I have done my research, and I believe that Senator John McCain will truly do his best, not fall back on his word, and be accountable to God if he is voted into office. He stands up for what he believes no matter what the consequences are. This is what Jesus did, and that is what McCain does, and that is what I strive to do as well.

I am with some of you who say that God doesn't particularly favor a certain party, but as Christians, we must look at what the Bible says is truth, and fight for that truth in Government as much as possible. If we don't have Christian leaders standing up for what is right, then who will? Government is at the base of our daily lives, which we take for granted. How can we sit back and let others decide how to run this country? How can we vote for Obama knowing what he believes, who he is associated with, and how he votes? Looking at both the candidates, I can tell you that I have done my research, and I believe that Senator John McCain will truly do his best, not fall back on his word, and be accountable to God if he is voted into office. He stands up for what he believes no matter what the consequences are. This is what Jesus did, and that is what McCain does, and that is what I strive to do as well.

To begin with, a college professor once warned me to be wary of statistics as they depend most often on who is paying for the survey. Any and every survey needs strict governing guidelines to establish a true sampling. Most phone in - write in - survey are bogus as the group which has access to the survey may be bias to begin with. For example, to have a survey on this site, Christianity Today, the 'pastors' would have to subscribe to the site and at the very least be appreciative of its content. Those who do not would never even get the opportunity. It is another example of poor media reporting to say that this is the way that Pastors will vote.
Secondly, any pastor who is a true servant/leader should never direct the voting preference of his/her congregation. It is our moral and Christian responsibility to do our own homework about the candidates voting record and personal views on subjects.
Thirdly, no one person is perfect, save for Christ himself, and neither Barack Obama nor John McCain are Christ. They both have good points, positive opinions and they both have negative ones. To vote because of one issue is short-sighted but to ignore an issue most dear to your own heart is as Martin Luther would say treasonous to your self.
Brothers and sisters in Christ, all of you across this great nation with its many blessings, forget the propaganda do your homework and vote the way your spirit directs you. Which means pray about it first and then listen for God's direction. Trust me, the time spent in prayful discernment is much more beneficial than anything on the television or in the media.
May God be with you on Tuesday.

I am an Independent and I had a chance to view both rallies and this is the "Spirit" I saw.

GOP rally.
1. Division
2. Lies
3. False Accusations
4. Hatred
5. One dominant race


Democratic rally.
1. Laughter
2. Unity
3. Excitement
4. White, Black, Asian, Latino
5. The Future

And you tell me that the GOP is the Spirit of God. I think not. I voted Republican in the last 4elections and look where it has gotten us. Even from a world standard they cannot stand our nation...Barack is not perfect, but, he has the right Spirit to be used by God....I am a Christian and I am proud to be voting for Barack Obama.

I am an Independent and I had a chance to view both rallies and this is the "Spirit" I saw.

GOP rally.
1. Division
2. Lies
3. False Accusations
4. Hatred
5. One dominant race


Democratic rally.
1. Laughter
2. Unity
3. Excitement
4. White, Black, Asian, Latino
5. The Future

And you tell me that the GOP is the Spirit of God. I think not. I voted Republican in the last 4elections and look where it has gotten us. Even from a world standard they cannot stand our nation...Barack is not perfect, but, he has the right Spirit to be used by God....I am a Christian and I am proud to be voting for Barack Obama.

Alot of people say their Christians and are not.Only God knows who is and who is not. So, You have to look for indicators of wolves mixed in with the sheep, or tares mixed in with the wheat. On that note, I would say look at who one associates with. what core Christian values (eg..thou shalt not kill "murder in the Hebrew," that one stands on. Does the candidate have Christian roots? These are all questions that I would ponder before I voted. Does the candidate really love God or just say "God" to make people happy? Has the candidate met God in any way, or has He been severely tested where He met God at the edge of near disaster. I would pray to Jesus and than I would cast My vote.

The survey was not done by Christianity Today. It was done by Lifeway Research. I was done with proper polling techniques.

As a professional pollster with more than 40 years experience in the trade, and as an evangelical by Barna's definition, I found the posting interesting but filled with questions. The methodology says the survey was conducted by phone, churches were selected randomly, and locations weighted. What we don't know, among other things, is from what lists were the churches chosen at random? And what was weighted and how, on what basis.
Appearance of the report in Christianity Today is not problematic, nor is "sponsorship" necessarily a problem. No reputable pollster frames questions and results to please sponors. If they do they will produce junk results and soon will be out of business. However, to make much sense of the findings, it is worth noting that a mere 53% of Protestant Pastors plan to vote for McCain, 20% for Obama, while national polls show evangelical/born again conservative Christians going overwhelmingly for McCain, while the 20% OBama figure does seem about right. One wonders who is leading whom, or how many pastors didn't tell polsters of their choice, claimng to be undecided. Who know, this may be a classic case of "Don't tell even if asked." I never cease to be amazed at how my brothers/sisters in Christ define Christian values almost exclusively in terms of the abortion issue and their newly discovered fear--homosexuality. Whatever happened to unjust wars, compassion for the poor and those in need, love for our neighbors, practicing peace making, protecting God's creation etc., etc, etc.? I guess Jesus had it all wrong, insorar as I can tell from the scriptures he not once addressed the two issues evangelicals are now focused on. Too bad we don't really follow the humble Jewis carpenter when we go to the polls.

The time is very much so the last days.We as followers of Christ
see that neither canadate is following the scriptures. It is for us to pray for the leadership of this country to raise the standards, to what this country was founded on. And yes signs of the times are present and we need to not only pray but put our hands to the plow
and the fields are white go after the harvest. AMEN
We are accountable for our vote and to back it up through prayer and to get involved especially with no more abortions and keeping
marriage between a man and woman as GOD ordained.

We are praying for you, America!
God bless you all.

I have been trying to do my home work and to vote for the man that would be best for us all, and this has helped me made my mind up.

As far as who you should vote for, consider this. What does the bible say about the role of government? What traits are found in biblical godly leaders?

For the first question, Rom 13 is a good text. Our government should do 3 things. Promote good. Prohibit bad. And punish evil.
Comparing the two candidates record on the most basic fundamental human right, protecting life, and Gods institution of marriage. Senator Obama voted for the most liberal law of abortion on demand and voted against the born alive act which would save babies the aurvived failed abortion attempts. He also say he is pro family, but has passed many pro homosexual laws, and even wrote a congratulatory letter to the head of the lesbian/gay/bisexxual/trangender union in California congratulation them on their victory in California and getting married. McCain is against both abortion and gay marriage and his record shows that.
Hope that helps you to glorify His holy name as you look to be salt in using your obligation to vote.

I could not vote for a person who will not pledge to our wonderful American flag. That is just not right in my eyes, or for a man that's father was not an American.

I agree with what you all are saying. It's interesting to see...I believe a lot Macain will stand up for a beliefs...AMEN....but it's not looking good for him in the polls....I was looking around the press and found this website www.artsentertainment.com ....they are broadcasting the Obama event.....when I looked at the camera feed it was almost as if they are preparing for a religious event......we have to much idol worship ion this country

To Pastor Albert Motto, How does it feel to be one that Jesus spoke of. You are a false shepard. And unfortunate for you you will be held to a higher accounability. I pray God will deal with you quickly. Lest you lead any more sheep astray.

Rev Robert Way and Pastor Al Motta, You who are held to a higher standard ( If you truely are who you say you are), will face God's rebuke. I pray that it come soon so as not to lead any more sheep astray. Boy we really are in the end times! Every where I turn God's prophecy's are comming to pass, itching ears and all.