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May 8, 2009

CatholicVote.org's New Video

Fox agrees to air new pro-life ad.

CatholicVote.org, which received praise and panning for its "Imagine" video, has just put together a new offering as part of its "Life: Imagine the Potential" campaign. Organizer Brian Burch says the Fox network has agreed to air the ad during the finale of "American Idol." Like "Imagine," this one is well worth your 60-second investment.


I'm all for ethical adoptions by loving people, who isn't? But...

Nelson Mandela is one of the most significant Gay rights activists in the world. Isn't it hypocritical for Catholic Vote to use his good name for their disgraceful, though secondary, anti-Gay agenda? I've visited their website...it took me less than a minute flat to find rank anti-Gay bigotry.

It's a good bet that John Lennon wouldn't have approve of the Catholic Vote's contempt for other people's basic civil rights.

Not to mention...what about the adoption of boys who march to a different drummer?

So, given the naked bigotry of the Catholic Vote website, the video is, with little doubt, unethically manipulative.

Again, CT should be quite ashamed of itself for encouraging anti-civil rights subversion of America's highest ideals, as well as the Golden Rule. How do you all sleep at night, anyway? Actually, I've studied sociology, so I think I have an idea about that...and it's not a nice one.

The right-wing version of the anti-abortion movement isn't all that much about "unborn children." I see precious little actual concern about the "unborn," let alone the post-born, except as things to be manipulated, and people to abuse if they should demand their basic civil rights. I've read most every issue of CT, after all. I know CT's history.

The right-wing version of the anti-abortion movement is obviously much more about authoritarianism than the ethical handling of sometimes very difficult prenatal situations. CT, anyway, has always been about religious privilege, as defined by conservative, mostly "white" men, instead of individual rights; control of the "other" by dubious claims of religious supremacy and smarmy and duplicitous emotional manipulations like the above video, instead of the Golden Rule. CT and Catholic Vote have unwittingly demonstrated that quite well.

Now can we have a balanced view, how about going to Mumbai and Delhi and shooting some scenes from there as well.

[It's still legal - and always God-honoring - to air messages like the following. (See Ezekiel 3:18-19.) In light of government backing of raunchy behavior (such offenders were even executed in early America!), maybe the separation we really need is the "separation of raunch and state"!]

In Luke 17 in the New Testament, Jesus said that one of the big "signs" that will happen shortly before His return to earth as Judge will be a repeat of the "days of Lot" (see Genesis 19 for details). So gays are actually helping to fulfill this same worldwide "sign" (and making the Bible even more believable!) and thus hurrying up the return of the Judge! They are accomplishing what many preachers haven't accomplished! Gays couldn't have accomplished this by just coming out of closets into bedrooms. Instead, they invented new architecture - you know, closets opening on to Main Streets where little kids would be able to watch naked men having sex with each other at festivals in places like San Francisco (where their underground saint - San Andreas - may soon get a big jolt out of what's going on over his head!). Thanks, gays, for figuring out how to bring back our resurrected Saviour even quicker!

Better that they see "naked men having sex on the street" then seeing dead bodies hanging from trees, which conservative Christians didn't seem to mind, in my Grandfather's day.

I don't remember reading much about Christians claiming that America's real Days of Lot were God's judgment and bringing on Armageddon. Congress couldn't even pass anti-lynch laws, thanks to conservative evangelicals...and it was conservative Christians who were claiming that integration was against God's will and would bring upon God's judgment upon America.

The 'days of Lot' refers to people who would violently enslave and abuse strangers rather than treat them hospitably. Proper hospitality is a great virtue among nomads, such as Abraham himself demonstrated. After all, nomadic hospitality can save your live in desert regions, and brings news one might need from afar.

As a pro-lifer I sort of wonder if this ad is counterproductive. Are there no adoptions that resulted in people who advanced the kingdom of God, stood up for the unborn, and spoke the truth of the Creator God's revealed word? Did they really need to pick a bunch of people that contributed to the mess we are in?

Gregory Peterson - Please take your hate somewhere else.
There is absolutely no "anti-gay bigotry" at Catholic Vote.org, and your take on American history and anti-lynching laws is simply flat-out wrong.

Don't you just love how the liberals, athiests and homosexuals love to hang around CT and share their "tolerant" views with Christians? A woman loses her right to choose after she becomes pregnant with a new life. Sorry. Raped or not. Homosexuality is abnormal. Sorry. No amount of law changing will change the biological facts. We pray for the deluded regardless of how much you abuse us. Catholics are not anti-gay bigots. We are anti-sin bigots.

One has an obligation to love bigots, right? So...I'm not going anywhere.

Who really is the hater here? I'm not the one who's against citizen equality, am I?

I'm not the one advocating a tawdry, deeply immoral and anti-American ideals constitutional amendment that would take away Gay people's First Amendment rights to petition their governments for redress of their grievances. CT has disgracefully suggested exactly that, if memory serves, in its usual smarmy, greedy, self-righteous and condescendingly racist-like way.

"Homosexuality is abnormal." Homosexuality doesn't exist in humans. It's a Victorian social construct now being much abused by people of ill will, such as by the editors of CT...which has a very long history, after all, of supporting white privilege thinly disguised as religious privilege, while merely pretending to be anti-racist.

Never mind that CT was founded with money by J. Howard Pew, for starters, and was well know for its libeling of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., even getting J. Edgar Hoover to slam him. I've read most every issue. I know CT's history very well.

It's first issue on racism gave "equal time" to racists, for instance. Where is equal time for Gay accepting theologians? For anything that CT doesn't support? Has CT ever properly apologized for its sordid history of supporting white privilege and states' rights, the political theory of white privilege? I rather doubt it, but maybe it was buried like they buried King's Nobel Prize? CT just pretends that it wasn't what is was...while never actually repenting, never actually learning anything, as it's anti-Gay hate-mongering unwittingly illustrates so well.

Sixty years of sociological and psychological research says you're wrong to write the outrageously bigoted "abnormal" thing that you wrote...but you don't care about that, do you?

Really, where did you get your alleged "biological facts? Not from the Bible, and not from any reputable textbook or journal.

But then, when have religio/political conservatives ever been afraid to be outrageously bigoted? I went to college in the Bible Belt in the Seventies. I've heard it all.

"Normal," to the Bible Belt reactionaries who where bent on saving my race-traitor soul, always meant "us," but not "those people." The inherent abnormality of alleged "inferiority" in the "other," as "scientific proof" of God's punishment for ancestral sin, was given as the main reason for segregation and discrimination.

Jim Crow was, after all, a sort of religious eugenics movement...a race purity movement, legitimized by endlessly quoted "inerrant" Bible Verses and dubious claims of common sense. Endless, out of context, mindlessly quoted clobber verses twisted by conservative moral and intellectual bankrupts into thuggish weapons to keep people in line. Exactly like the anti-homosexualists, if I may coin a word, are biblio-idolatrously doing today with their favorite clobber verses...with complete contempt for the Golden Rule, as usual.

If that didn't work, then there was the threatening of people with God's sending one to eternal torture if they didn't conform...and if that didn't work, there was the sheriff's department to hassle me and mine, as if they had nothing else to do.

Why can't the religious right come up with anything new in their latest massive resistance campaign against citizen equality? If the anti-Gay campaign is so different than white conservative evangelicals' former anti-Black campaign...why isn't it actually different?

I've got a degree in sociology. I'd love to take apart something that's actually new, something that's not been endlessly recycled, something that doesn't try, once again, to play me for an ignorant fool who thinks he's God's second most favorite son.

"We're anti-sin bigots." You wrote it...now think about what you wrote.


Are you smoking something? You are completely out of line. Mr. Patterson has as much right to his views as you have to yours. So his views are wrong, you say? Where is your proof? I thank Mr. Patterson myself for providing valuable information.

I've got news for you Jim. I grew up in the Pentecostal church. And don't know if you are aware, but to must evangelicals Catholics are wasting their time. To most evangelicals Catholicism is nothing more than a cult. So that makes you a cultist.

What I'm amused about though is since when evangelicals and cultist have such a close loving relationship...

Jim stated:"Don't you just love how the liberals, athiests and homosexuals love to hang around CT and share their "tolerant" views with Christians? A woman loses her right to choose after she becomes pregnant with a new life. Sorry. Raped or not. Homosexuality is abnormal. Sorry. No amount of law changing will change the biological facts. We pray for the deluded regardless of how much you abuse us. Catholics are not anti-gay bigots. We are anti-sin bigots."

Here's the biggest flaw with the "Imagine the Potential Ad": Catholic Vote's underlying agenda is "Choose life over abortion," yet only 5 of the prominent persons featured in the ad could possibly have fallen into that circumstance (Dave Thomas, Faith Hill, DMC, Sarah Maclachlan, and Steve Jobs). The rest were either "adopted" by a step-parent, taken in as adolescents when they were teens, etc. (in a couple cases, it's questionable whether any adoption took place). Babe Ruth was "adopted" out of an orphanage at age 19 by a baseball scout, in order to sign the Babe into a major league baseball contract (back then, the "legal" age was 21).

I'm not criticizing the idea behind the message... just its disingenuous execution.