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June 9, 2009

Obama's Speeches Mention Jesus more than Bush's Did

President Obama has mentioned Jesus Christ during several recent high-profile speeches while former President George W. Bush usually talked about his faith in less prominent places, Politico reports.

Writer Eamon Javers makes the case uses three recent speeches:

- In his speech last week in Cairo:
"All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of the three great faiths is the place of peace that God intended it to be ... when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them, joined in prayer."

- At the University of Notre Dame commencement:
"I found myself drawn - not just to work with the church but to be in the church," Obama said. "It was through this service that I was brought to Christ."

- Making the case for his economic policies in April:
"We cannot rebuild this economy on the same pile of sand," Obama said. "We must build our house upon a rock."

Obama could be trying to dispel rumors that he is a Muslim, since the percentage of those who believed the rumor during the campaign has not changed.

Politico then compares Obama to President Bush's time in office, when Bush mentioned talked about his faith openly to individuals or in interviews. But during his first year as president, Bush mentioned "Jesus" or "Christ" a handful of times in less prominent places, such as his Easter proclamation, a Christmas message, and a proclamation on "Salvation Army Week."

"I don't recall a single example of Bush as president ever saying, ‘Jesus' or ‘Christ,'" said Tony Perkins, president of the conservative Christian group Family Research Council. "This is different."

To Perkins, Obama's overtly Christian rhetoric is a welcome development from an administration that he largely disagrees with on the issues, though Perkins sees a political motive behind it, as well.

"I applaud that. It gives people a sense of comfort," Perkins said. "But I think it's a veneer, a facade that covers over a lot of policies that are anti-Christian."

In case you're keeping track, Obama has not chosen a home church yet.

Comments

"Obama could be trying to dispel rumors that he is a Muslim, since the percentage of those who believed the rumor during the campaign has not changed."

That's a really trite comment. What about this...he could just perhaps amazingly believe in what he's saying, you know like his faith is real for him and affects his life and how he sees the world.

Lost in the propaganda of the last presidential election was the fact that, in the end, Obama was the only candidate standing with a testimony of conversion.

The GOP convinced white evangelicals that waiting for the GOP to overturn Roe is the only truly pro-life position, that black evangelicalism is not real Christianity, and that Muslims are not to be loved.

Obama is no Christian. His interview (here http://ow.ly/d8Cx) more than clearly shows that. He does not know the Gospel, He is not saved, he is a "so called" Christian. I pray for his salvation often and you should too.

Yes, Heather his faith may be real to him. But it is not the faith that coincides with the biblical, nor historical, Jesus that he is fond of paying lip service to. Jesus' life as it has been recorded didn't leave room for ambiguity. You either follow him or you don't. Jesus said that those that love God obey God. You can't pick the parts you like and disregard the parts you don't.

If his faith in Jesus was real, his life and choices would be more aligned with biblical truth. Instead his choices tend to lean more toward the world's view than toward the faith he professes. Yes, Jesus loved all people, but he also confronted sin in the hearts of those that considered themselves sinless while forgiving those that were seeking it.

A statement that suggests that Moses (venerated by the Jews), Jesus (venerated by the Christians), and Mohammed (venerated by the Muslims) "joined in prayer" is another way of saying, as he has before, that all faiths are the same and Jesus happens to be right for him. The God of the Bible and Jesus say they are not the same as other beliefs and Jesus claimed to be the ONLY way of salvation. A statement like that is an attempt to appease all three groups.

"when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them, joined in prayer."

It doesn't seem to me that you can mention Christ and Mohammed in the same way. That does not show saving faith in Christ as the ONLY way of salvation. I agree with the idea that he is using the name of Jesus as a way to bring the conservatives and evangelicals on his side. His views on ideas, such as abortion, should not be overlooked simply b/c he uses the name of Jesus.

Yet another way Obama mirrors Lincoln, heretofore under-examined: he's full of references to Jesus and Scripture, but does not clearly belong to a particular faith community and is theologically heterodox. That is, Obama's a freethinker who appropriates spiritual language easily without landing on any particular truths or doctrines - in sum, perfect for a politician and very much the spirit of the times.


Erica said: "If his faith in Jesus was real, his life and choices would be more aligned with biblical truth. Instead his choices tend to lean more toward the world's view than toward the faith he professes."

Do you care to elaborate???. I think it's your view of what being a Christian is that Obama doesn't jive with, not the biblical view. Obama is what we all are..sinners. He'll make mistakes just as we all do because we look through a glass darkly. I certainly didn't agree politically with G.W. Bush and I found many of his actions from pre-emptive war, to torture, to cutting social programs for the poor very troubling from a Christian perspective but he is a Christian (and thus my brother) nonetheless. I would urge you to extend the same grace to your brother in Christ, Barack Obama. Jesus didn't command us to agree with one another, but he did command us to love one another.

As Christians, I think we ought to pray for him and his leadership so that he can make a difference that brings glory to Christ's name.

Please someone, dispel the myth that unless Obama adheres to the "proper orthodoxy", then he cannot be a christian. Who has the correct orthodoxy anyways? Religious wars have been fought over this for centuries. Not that long ago, Irish catholic & protestant fought each other, yet beleived in the same god. I am sick of religious tests...

I for one believe his faith is sincere but that he must (as all of us) need to live in a world where not everyone is a christian, and so must make accommodations to other peoples faiths, so as to not impose a particular biblical world-view on others.

No surprise here....

I really don't know if President Barack Obama is a "true Christian", like many like to say. Then again, I really don't know if former President George W. Bush is a "true Christian" either. Both have taken positions and/or actions that are against Biblical teachings. Is it because they are not "true Christians"? Or could it be that they have not grown to be mature Christians? After all, are we not all growing in the grace and knowldege of Jesus Christ? One thing I know: as Christians we are to pray for our leaders at all levels, especially the most powerful of them, the President of the United States; that God would give him wisdom and understanding to rule with justice and fairness to all, and that the Church of Jesus Christ may be in peace to do the work that it is called to do. Everything else is everything else, and it is to be ignored.

There is ample evidence, on respected sites, that Obama is not a Christian at all, but merely using Christianity in order to win "hearts and minds" I fear that too many of us follow Obama blindly and shy away from ANY criticism of him.

If you really believe he converted and is not just "talking the talk," you might want to explore further the church that he claims to have converted to. Black Liberation Theory, as taught by James Cone, would have nothing to do with many of you and would actually wish you harm, as you are the "wrong" color.

Then there are the votes for infanticide...To use the words of Christianity while not attempting to live up to those words -- isn't that what the Pharasees did?

I can see by reading these comments that many Christians have some confusion about what Obama should do and what he shouldn't in regard to his Muslim speech. We need to refer to Jesus's only two commandments because we are no longer under the old law but under grace. All things must be done in love which covers a multitude of sins. Nothing should be said unless it be through love or that would push away from Jesus. The latter requires wisdom because unless you have a certain degree of meekness or humbleness, there are many that will not be reached and that otherwise could be.

President Obama professes to be a Christian and we should take him at his word because none of us can see into his heart. Pray that the Spirit of the one true God works in and through him.

God's will is done regardless of Obama's motives and goals. Pray that the Muslim world is opened to hear the Gospel and that the truth sets them free.

Do you think any of the George Bushes were Christians? Do you think Ronald Reagan was a Christian? Do you think any republican presidents were Christians?

Do you need to be a Christian to be a president? Do you think this is a theocracy?

At the end of the day, the only respected site that will count is The Book of Life. And the Great I AM, knows who is in it. You had better stop worrying about Obama and worry about yourself. God says he puts men to be rulers - if Obama became the president it is therefore God's doing!

Move on now!
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There is ample evidence, on respected sites, that Obama is not a Christian at all, but merely using Christianity in order to win "hearts and minds" I fear that too many of us follow Obama blindly and shy away from ANY criticism of him.

If you really believe he converted and is not just "talking the talk," you might want to explore further the church that he claims to have converted to. Black Liberation Theory, as taught by James Cone, would have nothing to do with many of you and would actually wish you harm, as you are the "wrong" color.

Then there are the votes for infanticide...To use the words of Christianity while not attempting to live up to those words -- isn't that what the Pharasees did?

OK, OK, OK, OK, OK .... has everyone on each "side" of this needless discussion had their respective say? Presumably this makes for genuine and postive impact on someone's life -- somewhere, someway, somehow. Have been "born and raised "in the church," and God made it possible for me to serve growing up, and today .... there have been plenty of weeks when I have not felt "worthy" to take communion, pray, or teach class. During these times, and throughout my life, I have never, let me repeat, never looked to the President of the United States, or any level of government for spritual guidance or examples. Never. Regardless of party. So keep fussing about who he is, what he is, and where he should be...but at the end of the day...or life...don't we all want God to say to us: "well done, my good and faithful servant"? Enter in. Thanks CT for keeping this talk going! It really makes a difference in my life....

I don't understand the reason for the (imho, gratuitous) final paragraph, "In case you're keeping track, Obama has not chosen a home church yet." Having been so badly burned in Chicago, it would be prudent to step carefully here, since so many are (as seen above) casting aspersions on his faith.

In the Christianity Today report of an interview with Obama last year he replied to the question "What is sin" saying "That is when I depart from my standards" Sadly that not likely to come from from one who has a living relationship with God through Jesus. His immediate popularity with the western press throughout the world and probably from other nations also is remarkable. Could this be a presage of the antichrist? Some thought Hitler of Stalin was an antichrist, but never has or will anyone conquer the world by force or legislative power from the UN.. Popularity with a religious flavour crossing ethnic, national and religious barriers must be the only way as shown by the recent outpouring of adulation globally for this very articulate,comfort and hope giving leader.