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June 17, 2011

Lone Democrat Keeping NY One Vote Shy of Same-Sex Marriage, For Now

The New York State Assembly recently approved a bill that would expand marriage to include same-sex couples. The Marriage Equality Act headed to the Senate where it is one vote short of the 32 needed for passage. That vote will need to be a Republican because there is just one Democrat opponent left—Senator Rubén Díaz, one of the most vocal opponents to same-sex marriage in the legislature.

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Díaz is a Pentecostal minister and president of the New York Hispanic Clergy Organization. He has participated in rallies against same-sex marriage.

“I am blessed to serve as a Pentecostal minister and I celebrate this!” Díaz said. “As a Christian … I will continue to defend the teachings of the Bible and oppose homosexual marriage. As a Member of the New York State Senate, I will continue to defend the definition of New York's marriage laws to be between a man and a woman.”

Díaz's outspoken position on same-sex marriage has made him the target of gay rights groups. He even became the subject of a gay writing contest: “[Expletive] Ruben Diaz: Gay Erotica Featuring NYC’s Number One Bigot.”

With Díaz voting “no,” proponents are now trying to convince one more Republican to back the bill. Ironically, a similar bill failed in a Democratic-controlled Senate two years ago. This time around, vote switching by a handful of legislators from both parties may mean it will pass a Republican-led Senate. Even if proponents of the bill are able to garner one more Republican supporter, Senate Majority Leader Dean Skelos (R) may not bring it up for a vote. However, many expect a vote today or early next week.


The bill is focus of heavy lobbying on both sides. Supporters of gay marriage include Barbara Pierce Bush (daughter of President George W. Bush) and New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg. The mayor travelled to Albany Thursday to discuss the bill with Republican Senators.


“I still believe if [the senators] do vote their hearts and principles, New York State will become the next state to adopt marriage equality,” Bloomberg told reporters.


Opponents include Archbishop Timothy M. Dolan, the leader of the Catholic church in New York, who compared the effort to redefine marriage in New York to China or North Korea.


“In those countries, government presumes daily to 'redefine' rights, relationships, values, and natural law There, communiqués from the government can dictate the size of families, who lives and who dies, and what the very definition of 'family' and 'marriage' means,” Dolan said. “But, please, not here! Our country’s founding principles speak of rights given by God, not invented by government, and certain noble values – life, home, family, marriage, children, faith – that are protected, not re-defined, by a state presuming omnipotence.”


The bill passed the State Assembly by a vote of 80 to 63. All but a few Republicans voted against the measure. Some of these Democrats represent districts with large religious blocs of voters who tend to vote Democratic in state politics, such as conservative Jews, Catholics, or African-American Protestants.


Dov Hikind, one of the 15 Democrats opposed to the bill, was not shy about invoking God into the debate. The Brooklyn legislator held up a copy of the Hebrew scriptures.


“You want to tell God he doesn’t know what he’s talking about?” Hikind said.




Comments

Rather than demonstrate “tolerance,” as they typically insist be shown to them, the “progressive” GLBT advocates who sadly go on the attack and hurl invectives (e.g., “haters” and “bigots”) against those who dare to vote or believe differently than they. Like spoiled children when they don’t get their way, these advocates continue to cry and whine and even do violence against those opposed to their repulsive behavior. Consider the case of Dan Savage, the hypocritical homosexual who has for years personally attacked, maligned, and slandered Rick Santorum. It’s Savage—not people like Santorum or Diaz or Hikind--who needs to learn a few lessons about tolerance and civility.

It's time to give the gays the rights they deserved. Why should anyone impose their belifes and values to the rest of the society? That's not what America is. Im an imperfect Christian, and I am proud to say that I support marriage equality for all. If some people think it's wrong, it's their freedom to think that. But at the end of the day, only GOD can JUDGE who is right and wrong. Why we should instruments of selfishness, intolerance, and discrimation? Santorum, Hikind the ugly words they've got because it certainly FITS them well. Sad to say! Catholic has no more credibility on middling on this issue, they can't even fix their own scandals. SHAME!

Stop the bigotry! Don't bring bigotry to the state of New York. If you don't believe in gay marriage, you can do so freely. But you don't have the right to slap your destructive bigotry to others who just want to be happy and their rights secured on their relationship. This is long over due. And majority of NYkers even favor now of SSM. If you won't believe it, go outside and feel the temperature. I'm praying for this bill to be pass and sign into law. Let's be happy for everyone please. Everyone deserves happiness.

.....Diaz....a divorced minister "protecting marriage"! Seems he lives not what he preaches....the definition of hypocrite!

I see the radical gays are at it again. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Period.

Christians take a stand for Truth! Marriage is between a man and a woman. We have the written truth in Gods' Word. Don't cave in
to what man/society dictates. We serve the Lord first-finish strong brothers and sisters. Pray for those who are blind and persecute you.
In Christ.

If marriage is truly "God's creation", then God must have intended mixed race marriages all along. If that is true, why did Christian Churches in the South, especially Southern Baptist, sponsor and advance legislation prohibiting it as being "unnatural", "against God's plan" and "re-defining marriage"??? Why did they cite Biblical passages? Could it be that their lies were caused by the blindness of bigotry or was this an attempt to nullify the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution. Deja Vu all over again????

There is no such thing as a "gay" or a "lesbian" person. These are heterosexual people with a homosexual problem, thus they cannot live nor experience their heterosexuality. People develop a homosexual problem just as they develop a pedophilia problem or anorexia. In human sexuality, there are always elements of choice, and that also applies to homosexuality or pedophilia, but most of homosexuality or pedophilia are complex psychological dysfunctional developments.

How many people choose to be a pedophile? As many as those who choose to be a homosexual. It’s the wrong question to ask. The question is why did they develop a homosexual problem in the first place, and what elements of choice were there?

American culture is about keeping an emotional comfort level intact at the expense of complete denial of everything that is amiss in the personal sphere. Are people who have a homosexual problem interested in knowing why they have developed a homosexual psychology in the first place? Not in the least. Ignorance is bliss and ignorance in this case fundamentally also serves another very important purpose: to drive away any uncomfortable queries into family dynamics, personal problems, etc., that may have contributed to this result. These people would much rather spend their time watching Jerry Springer or Sex in the City or porn and drinking a beer.

This is one of the reasons why homosexuality is being normalized in society. It is part of an absolute need to normalize and glorify a much larger ensemble of harmful liberal dogmas and attitudes about sexuality as the norm and the "healthy, acceptable" standard in society. Americans must have their pornography, promiscuity, abortions, drugs, and homosexuality.

Who wins? So far the people doing the cover-up of all these issues win, and the truth is largely buried, trampled under the heels of those who walk past on their Proud of What Parades.

re: Alessandre - nicely said!
re: Wayne: tsk, tsk, tsk, not nice to judge.

Some Mormons, Catholics, and Orthodox Jews are lobbying for exemptions to marriage equality laws in NY and other states.

But equal transportation laws have no exemptions that deny public transport to African-Americans just because some bus driver worships at a bigoted church. Equal housing laws have no exemptions that deny apartments to Latinos just because some landlord worships at a bigoted synagogue. And the 19th Amendment has no exemption that denies a woman the right to vote just because some election official worships at a bigoted mosque. Therefore, no marriage equality law should include exemptions to let government agencies or private businesses deny weddings just because some people or religions are still bigoted.

Same-sex couples have been marrying — safely and successfully — for over 7 years in Massachusetts, where church and state are separate, with no religious exemptions, as required by the U.S. Constitution. New York should imitate Massachusetts, and allow no exemptions.

“Religious exemptions” are just excuses used by the Mormon, Catholic, and Orthodox Jewish sects to delay, derail, and defeat equality for everyone else. No one should fall for such trickery.

“Wayne” still thinks that being bisexual, lesbian, or gay is a mental illness.

That’s untrue. He is ignorant of both science and history. His theory was researched, debated, de-bunked, and rescinded — repeatedly — over the last 4 decades, by:

• American Psychiatric Association (1973)
• American Psychological Association (1975)
• American Medical Association
• American Academy of Pediatrics
• American Mental Health Counselors Association
• American Counseling Association, and
• National Association of Social Workers.

There never was any scientific evidence for the mental illness metaphor that “Wayne” relies upon. Furthermore, using his own logic, the following explanation also would be equally true:

Perhaps there is no such thing as a “heterosexual” because each of them is really just a homosexual with a “heterosexual” problem, who cannot live nor experience their homosexuality naturally. Perhaps the illness of heterosexuality develops as all mental illnesses do. And although it could be argued that each heterosexual chose to have the illness, perhaps most heterosexuals are the result of complex psychological dysfunctional development.

You see, by examining “Wayne” and his logic this way, it’s obvious that the un-documented, never-proven, long-abandoned theory that he embraces is just plain silly. That probably explains why he writes anonymously, and why he hides his family name.

I applaud both Diaz and Dolan for standing up to marriage the way it always has been and the way it should be. I suppose to the gay rights groups I would be considered intolerant, prejudicial and a bigot towards gay marriage. However, in the same vein, polygamists(sp) would consider me, supporters of traditional marriage, and probably supporters of gay marriage as being intolerant, prejudicial and a bigot towards polygamy.

@Ned: Please document any cultural acceptance of homosexuality by any civilization from, oh say, the beginning of recorded history to today. You may have your "authorities" - you listed them above. But who died and left them in charge of morality? Nobody. It's just that homosexuals don't want to admit their perverted sexual behavior is sinful. So let me ask you this: when the pedophiles "rise" up and demand public acceptance of their perversion, are you going to support them? Or when those who want to marry their farm animals rise up and demand public acceptance of their perverion, are you going to support them? Why is your perversion any more acceptable than theirs? Just b/c some organizations say so? The Bible is quite clear: Gen. 2:21ff "He took one of his ribs ...22 The LORD God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man. 23 The man said,

“This is now bone of my bones,
And flesh of my flesh;
She shall be called Woman,
Because she was taken out of Man.”

24 For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.
(Observation: God instituted marriage to be exclusively between Adam and Eve (man and woman) - not Adam and Steve.)

Lev. 18:22 "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." [Interpretation: homosexual behavior is morally wrong.]

This was reiterated in the NT by Paul in Romans 1:26-27.26 "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error."

What's this nonsense about those who oppose gay marriage "inflicting"'our views on them?! It's quite the opposite. Marriage between a man and a women has been the cultural and religious norm for 5000 years. In other words, marriage between a man and a woman is normal and it has worked well for centuries and there is no need to change it's definition. Many of us are growing weary of the homosexual movement inflicting their views on us in their hateful attempt in trying to make us feel like bigots. Well, it's not working. We're feeling more normal than ever. . . Thank you for showing your colors! :-)

I do not think governments should legitimize sin. Nor should they grant normalacy to those who have rejected the normal and chosen their own abnormal sexual path.
Why should the homosexual be allowed to participate in the benefits of the normal (children, , marriage and other benefits) when they so reject the correct way to obtain those benefits?
This is a good example of selfishness, spoiledness, greed, lust and ti should not be rewarded but punished.

@Ned,

On more than an occasion I have run into accounts that Gay Lobbying groups pressured organizations such as the APA into validating positions that they would not otherwise have.

We see it all the time today.

If you even so much as question the slightest thing about say... why the LGBT community does certain things, you get immediately labelled as "hateful" or "intolerant". Your question might be innocent enough, but you get slammed and who knows nowadays, get taken to Court. (Google Frank Turek and the Cisco kid).

Rather than dialogue or discuss the issue they instead try to promote their views by planting fear. Suppression however means that you really have not genuinely convinced anyone. And this is what I seem to find all the time. People say they support SSM, but upon discussion, they really do not. Fear is a poor motivator.

Anyway... getting back to my point. I suspect there is a good kernel of truth to the fact that groups like the APA might have actually been bullied into holding to the positions that they do.

God Bless you Ned. I do not know what your faith background is, but the God of the Universe cares about you and loved you so much that He sent His Son to die for you. God Bless!

I think that those persisting in pushing for same sex marriage are attempting to legitimize their sin. They think this will absolve them so they can feel better about their wrong lifestyle. Folks, this will not do it. What you do continues to be sin in God's sight. Just like Google knows everything about you so does God. You cannot hide behind the law allowing it.

Ned did a terrific job conveying some of the Scripture which addresses the issue. There is no escape people. God is not mocked. Whatsoever a man sows that shall he reap. You may think you can get away with what God labels as sin. There is a day coming whether you believe it or not when you face God as your judge. You cannot escape. Those of you whole complain that those in favor of marriage of a man and woman as established by God are judging us who fight speak against it. Truth is truth and cannot be avoided.

Just know that good Christian people pray for you just the same. We pray for the sinner not the sin.

God is still on the throne!

This article is outdated. It's going to pass. 3 Republicans and 29 Democrats in the yea. Boo Yah!