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September 30, 2011

Military Chaplains Allowed to Perform Gay Weddings

The Pentagon has issued a memo allowing military chaplains to perform same-sex marriages if it is allowed by the law and the chaplain's beliefs.

Last week, the military ended its "don't ask, don't tell" policy on gays and lesbians serving openly in the military, raising questions about the ability military chaplains will have to express their views on homosexuality.

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"A military chaplain may participate in or officiate any private ceremony, whether on or off a military installation, provided that the ceremony is not prohibited by applicable state and local law," a memo released Friday says. "Further a chaplain is not required to participate in or officiate a private ceremony if doing so would be in variance with the tenets of his or her religion."

In May, the Navy initially said it would same-sex marriages and then reversed its decision on marriages on military bases.

Under Secretary of Defense Clifford Stanley said in the new memo that "a military chaplain's participation in a private ceremony does not constitute an endorsement of the ceremony by [the Department of Defense]."

The Pentagon says Defense Department property may be used for private functions as long as it is in line with the Federal Defense of Marriage Act and local laws. Five states recognize same-sex marriage: Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, and Vermont.

Comments

This is why it is getting more questionable for Christians to even fight in this military. Do we join hands with an institution that defies God and calls evil good and good evil. WAKE UP CHRSITIANS! The bible says to come out from among them and be separate, not to touch the unclean thing. Any Chaplin that would commit this wicked act is a false prophet. I am sure we are going to see an exodus of true, good, Christian men from the military as the climate gets more and more hostile to genuine faith. A recent article stated that now transgender cross dressers are demanding admission in the military as well. It will not end well.

This action is in direct violation of federal law, the Defense of Marriage Act (signed into law by Pres. Clinton in 1996). Why does our president, who used to teach constitutional law, lead his administration to continually violate the law?

I am glad that Military further states that "Further a chaplain is not required to participate in or officiate a private ceremony if doing so would be in variance with the tenets of his or her religion."
I don't understand your statement "This is why it is getting more questionable for Christians to even fight in this military." Do you intended to leave US because US Govt. allow gay marriages?

It will be interesting to see whether or not military chaplains who claim to follow Jesus Christ and His Word will be ables to remain as chaplains in the Armed Forces.

Considering "Gay Marriages" are not sanctioned by all

50 states - Military Chaplains should participate in

same-sex "Commitment Ceremonies" - And call it a day.

Why keep "squeezing the Charmin" with the marriage term.

If the ceremony to be performed is for "same-sex" -

by a Military Chaplain - the activity should be

termed, "Commitment Ceremony" - and call it a day.

Not all 50 states sanction same-sex marriages.

Why do we keep squeezing the Charmine with the

marriage term?

My nephew just left the military. He doesn't care what social sexual experiment laws are enforced on the men anymore because he doesn't have to follow them now. He is now in college studying to be a criminal/constitutional lawyer when he was just going to have a military career. Thanks to the 1% population of homosexuals who now have total access to all male units which are trained to follow rules for a military purpose not a sexual purpose, my nephew will now live a normal life unless of course he is killed in a car accident. We have my nephew home now and not around the world having bombs and bullets and sexual experiments being thrown at him. The military can have all the homosexuals it wants in it now.

Why would the miltary need someone can't even think of working with a few patriotic Gay soldiers who want to serve their country, apparently unlike your nephew.

It's difficult not to think that someone who would do such a thing has unresolved issues about their sexuality.

Other countries manage to have their patriotic Gay people in their armed forces. But apparently the religious-right in this country is made of the sort of stuff that will only condescend to serve from a position of unearned privilege from the competition of others. Heterosexual privilege...perhaps with the 20th Century version of the sort of mindset of "white" soldiers who might have left the military when Truman integrated the Armed Forces.

Tell him to study something that doesn't involve serving the public and working with, and for, people from all walks of life. Who needs him? Certainly no one in law enforcement.

Now, now GP. Don't get all worked up b/c someone disagrees with you. After all, you are a self-proclaimed proglib postmod kind of guy. And by definition proglib postmods don't believe in objective moral absolutes...so you can't pass moral judgment on those who do not agree with you. In fact you really can't make any moral judgments about anyone at all about anything - with yourself as the sole exception, perhaps - without violating your own belief system and appearing disingenuous and irrational. But then, proglib postmods by necessity are disingenuous and irrational.

Initiated by Leon Panetta & through the Secretary of state, Obama, on his first visit to India took a Contingent of US Military with him. It looks like an Innocent diplomatic gesture, but behind lies
"Dark sentences" Paying Allegiance to the gods of that land,honoring them in their strongholds,Gay relationships rules the roost of these gods. So now understand why these people are interested in having"Gayness" in the Military, for their agendas are more than just Liberty.

Thomas, I left the US when I became a citizen of the Kingdom of Heaven. We are to be sojourners and pilgrims here, obedient to laws which do not contradict our faith but not mightily moved by the political trends because our marching orders come from another Lord. I do not believe Christians should join the military, and if they become believers in the military they should refuse to bear arms. It is becoming easier, with every slide into wickedness, to exhort my brothers and sisters to stop waging carnal warfare in disobedience to their claim to follow Jesus. The scripture is so plain about what our mission is as Christians on this planet but we are slow to obey the Lord. Christians..stop equating America with the kingdom of God. Satan offered Jesus ALL the kingdoms of the world and their glory, that includes America. This acceptance of what the bible calls an abomination, is further proof our kingdom is not of this world.

Ah, the good old days of the draft! Who can forget and who remembers?

Back in the days, with an almost endless supply of able and fit bodies. The ARMY could afford the Luxury of denying the "privilege" to serve and refusing these and many others.

The Air Force, Coast Guard, Marines, Navy and others did benefit greatly also of the Draft. Simply because anyone who did not want to be or risk to be drafted could and indeed hundreds of thousands did in Fact, joined the other Services. Now a days the other Services can't meet their quotas. Best of all, even many churches and missionary organizations benefited of the Draft by those who claimed to be "conscientiuos objectors". The Chaplains in the Military could be also such.

I wonder sometimes, how many churches, preachers and "christians" these days, who are so Fascinated and so Enamored of a Military they will never have to serve; Will support a call to bring back the Draft.

I'll say bring back the Draft! Bring back the Draft and next day the numbers of young missionaries will swell, the Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard will also. There will be plenty of applications for Chaplain.

Then, not only the ARMY but the other services as well can refuse among several others, the homosexuals.

Bring back the Draft!

Is amusing to me, the Enamoring and Fascination that so many "christians", churches and preachers have with the Military. A Military they never and probably will never have to serve.

I mean; they almost worship the Military! Which by the way is one sign of the antichrist (Dan. 11:38).

So we've had for decades now an effort on the part of that Military. Making the rounds around the many churches, enticing young christian men to join and be joined together with all kinds of unbelievers, in the common bond of the Uniform services.

I've seen preachers and churches celebrating and annointing a young man who has been brainwashed into the Military all along whilst the same preacher and most of the church never did serve and never will. But one naive young man among a hundred falls for it and the rest of the church, believes is the equivalent of going as some sort of missionary. How come the other 99 did not go? Go figure that one out!

The Bible which should be our Manual of Life and Conduct, clearly teach that Military service is for Men. However now we have churches in cohorts with a perverted world system. Promoting that even young "christian" girls, who have not even been emacipated from the Paternal home. Join the Military.

I'll say bring back the Draft and don't continue to follow the ideology of a president, who was throw away from office for being a Crook.

Bring back the Draft!

Aha, I knew it, just as I thought!

Nobody, no one wants to bring back the Draft. The answer to a Draft call will be an overwhelming; NOT MY BOY!

So the Admiration, Embellishing, Enamoring, Fascination, Idolization, kissing-up and Praising of the AV Military as some sort of offshoot of christianity, is only as long as the Military, is made of SEOSEC's, minorities and even up to 20% NON-Citizens.

Or as "Internet rumors" has it! Foreign Nationals will be "invited" or Enticed even in their country of origin. To Join the US Military, promising them an advancement in Citizenship application and entry thru the GI Bill to US Colleges.

And to think, that the President who won a re-election mainly on the campaing promise to abolish the Draft, was eventually found to be a crook, a liar and a potty mouth.

Go figure!

After reading the comments, I suppose that if you had children who were "gay" or had a different sexual preference, you would DEMONSTRATE God's LOVE by kicking them out of the house and disowning them. That would teach them not to be "gay." Your God must be very small if he cannot take care of his own children who are "gay." I guess in your minds, Jesus died only for straight people. Unfortunately, the Bible failed to mention that there were homosexuals during that era.

"Unfortunately, the Bible failed to mention that there were homosexuals during that era."

Actually, you're wrong. To cite one passage: Rom. 1:26-27 "26 For this reason (AV)God gave them over to (AW)degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is [r]unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, (AX)men with men committing [s]indecent acts and receiving in [t]their own persons the due penalty of their error."

Wow. This is the reason Christians may be unable to serve in the military and be Christian? Not the use of land mines or depleted uranium shells, not the official endorsement of torture, not the repeated commands to love ones enemy and turn the other cheek in Christs own words... but this; Unofficial gay marriage ceremonies.

Wow.

DADT Repeal 100% Successful


Jim Macdea of NBC News reports from Logar, Afghanistan reports that repealing DADT posed no danger and caused no problems.


Even after the nation, Congress, and President Obama agreed to lift the ban on gays, lesbians, and bisexuals serving openly in the military, some people said repealing the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell law would never work in the real world. They said that letting open gay and lesbian soldiers serve in close quarters would cause chaos, and that combat units would implode.


• In manpower, they predicted fewer recruits, more resignations, and a return to the draft.

• In units, they predicted harm to order, discipline, morale, and unit cohesion.


• In battle, they predicted disruption, distraction, mistakes, injuries, and casualties.


• Off hours, they predicted coercion, illicit activity, health issues, and sexual assaults.


• Overall, critics predicted high risks to property, freedom, national security, and the American way of life.

But despite all these things that critics imagined, none of them ever happened.

Today’s soldiers, from grunts to top brass, even U.S. Marines, have actively embraced the law, with no reports of incidents like hazing or gay bashing. Behind front lines at large bases like Bagram Airfield, groups of gays and lesbians now meet publicly, at coffee hours unheard of only months ago.

Hundreds — perhaps thousands — of gay soldiers have recently posted their own coming out videos on YouTube, often to their own families. A phone call home by Airman Randy Phillips, based in Germany, to tell his parents he’s gay, went viral, with more than 5 million hits. Even commanders like Marine General James Amos, once opposed to lifting the ban during wartime, now support it, allowing soldiers to excel, as they always have in war, but now, to do it freely.


Source: "No incidents reported since DADT repealed"

MSNBC Nightly News, 22-Dec-2011

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nightly-news/45758539/#45758539