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For years, I've thought that people abuse the court system by suing for every little thing. But if a school had done that to one of my daughters, I do believe that I'd be in court. This was WRONG for them to do to this child.

Posted By: Darcy Knight | April 17, 2009 9:13 PM

Yes, I would think the school should have looked for more evidence before beginning a strip search. That said The article does not indicated or suggest that the girl did not sell the drugs she is accussed of. Drugs do kill thousands of students every year and the mess others up for life. Two women searching the girl, they did not touch her and it was done in a office with the door closed.

I think she wants some money.

Posted By: Dale | April 19, 2009 2:38 PM

It was an Ibuprofen, if she even actually did anything wrong. To a girl at 13, forcing her to get undressed is a violation. What authority do they have anyway? They are only school administrators, not police or parents or doctors. Forcing a child to remove clothes against their will without the contact of the authorities or parents is sexual assault.

Posted By: Lisa | April 19, 2009 3:41 PM

Something like that happen to me. A student said that they lost $80. (Why is someone bring $80 to school anyway?) Anyhow, school strip searched our whole class. All the boys went to the bathroom and took off their shirt and shoes and that's it. But all of us girls went one by one into the nurses office and stripped down to our bra and underwear. And also had to pull out our bra, so she could look in and our underwear. Totally humiliating thing and I had nightmares for years, because of the violation. The $80 dollars was never found.

Posted By: Tina | April 20, 2009 9:10 AM

It is certainly right to fight against drug abuse. However to subject a young girl to something very similar to the trauma caused by rape is certainly not the way to conduct that fight.

Posted By: Fr. Ian Yorston | April 21, 2009 10:23 AM

This is insane. It is sexual assault. And it is insane, students are being treated like slaves. I can say if someone were to strip search a child of mine I would personally kill them. And that's not unreasonable. It is the same as raping my daughter.

Posted By: Bret Zeller | April 21, 2009 9:09 PM

I agree, that was very inappropriate of the school. They should not have authority to do such a humiliating thing. They should have called a parent and had them come down, as well as done more investigation into the incident. What has happened to the other student who seemingly falsely accused another student? Should their not be a repurcussion for that?

Posted By: SGC | April 21, 2009 9:31 PM

I cannot believe the Supreme Court is going to say this was appropriate. It cannot be justified. Children have the right to due process. Just because they are smaller than adults does not give adults the right to violate their basic freedoms. There was no probable cause to strip search this student. There was no danger to others students. And if there had been, the school would have done well to CALL THE PARENT (which they did not even attempt to do) and then call the police. The police could have conducted the search within legally recognized boundaries. School administrators should NOT have the authority to do this.

Posted By: High School Teacher | April 22, 2009 3:20 PM

This is sexual assault on a minor, plain & simple.
Where is Chris Hansen when we need him.

Posted By: Hobo | April 22, 2009 8:29 PM

Five years I worked for school that did a strip of six girls becuase of some items that were taken they made take off all their including their bras and panties. the items were not on the girls or their bags. I resigned after me a pricipal was never told and I came under fire for letting happen. What should been done the parents should benn called and question the girls in question. Have police come never and I stressed this when I became pricipal never strip search any students no matter the surcomstance. That should never have happened. Her parents should been called and the pricipal and the two females involed should get fired or resign

Posted By: Thomas Melle | May 16, 2009 10:33 PM

i think they should have asked the girl who said she got them from her, what if she was just saying that to get out of trouble?

Posted By: unknown | June 2, 2009 4:22 PM

If that we me this is what i would've done. BTW, i get really strong when i'm really mad, i accidentally pulled the door off my locker because... nevermind... this is what i'd have done,
Nurse:Okay honey, sit down, now can you remove your clothes for me?
Me-Oh yeah sure, just as soon as you remove yours.
Nurse-What did you just say?
Me-I think you heard me, by the way i honestly think you, her, the principal, the vice principal, and all the teachers are fu**** jerks and they just want to make fun of me and laugh and you get the pleasure oh yeah, um, no.
Nurse-Do you want me to do it for you?
Me-No, as a matter of fact, i have a solution, I'm going to leave and go home and never come back, you're gonna chase after me, and if you, which you will, cuz i can tell, are gonna be very sorry for doing that. So, let me skip to the, you're gonna be sry part. THen i kick them and steal the key to the locked door out of their hands, run out, when the principal catches me, break his arms, run out the door, and run miles and miles and miles and miles away. Even if i don;t live that far. Then i'd go home crying to my mother screaming and yelling, "NEVER SEND ME BACK! PLEASE!" she'd listen and we'd move to Denver, (ps: that's where i want to move) Anyway, thats what i'd do. I wish she'd have more senses than to let them sexually abuse her.

Posted By: katie | June 2, 2009 4:33 PM

A Case for Drug Testing Rather Than The Strip Search

It’s good to set standards and to expect that people will uphold those standards. However, it is rather naive to think that they will uphold the standards if you don’t inspect what you expect.

Several school districts around Southeastern Wisconsin, where I live, are conducting random drug testing for students participating in extra curricular activities. This has been going on for a while, but it’s a controversial topic.

Legalities aside, the districts that don’t conduct any drug testing aren’t participating because they don’t see any data to support the effectiveness of the testing. With drug use rampant, why not test? Do people really think that kids who go out for sports never use drugs or alcohol? What data are they looking for?

Drug testing is nothing new, but for school districts, it’s a sad reality of today’s society. When I was in high school there were beer parties, and there was always talk about smoking marijuana, but it wasn’t main stream.

In the 1960’s there were a lot of decisions made about school; we decided as a nation that you weren’t allowed to pray in school, and the drugs, sex and rock-n’roll generation got married and decided that their children wouldn’t be subjected to any scrutiny. After all, we decided that our children were entitled to have things better than we did.

I recall a court case in the early 1970’s when a school got sued because a coach told a player to get a haircut. I can understand that a large percentage of parents would want to fight any form of drug testing on the simple grounds that their child might, in some way, be inconvenienced.

Students who attend a school that does drug testing and who choose to participate in athletics or other co-curricular activities understand that they might be asked to leave class, go the office and meet with medical professionals, who would ask them to submit a urine sample for screening. Actually, the kids aren’t the problem, and if their parents agree to allow the drug testing, there won’t be a lot of heat about it.

The debate over drug screening heated up after a 2002 Supreme Court decision that gave the green light for districts to test both athletes and students who join other extracurricular groups. The reason for allowing drug testing is because students choose to sign-up for these voluntary activities.

Moreover, Justice Clarence Thomas concluded that the practice was “reasonably effective.” This all hinges on the assumption that students give up some of their right to privacy when they “go out” for a sport or activity. Personally, I have no problem with this.

I coach both football and baseball, and I expect the kids to adhere to the school’s athletic code. I heard a report about a kid who got caught selling alcohol and drugs in school, and I was saddened but not shocked to hear that the kid was an athlete. Of course the parents would be outraged if we tested “little Johnny,” because their kid would never do drugs. We might bruise his self esteem.

Instead of looking at drug testing as an invasion of privacy and personal liberty, instead of choosing to view drug testing as an attack on a child’s character, look at drug testing as a preventative health measure. If a child is tested positive for drugs, test again to make sure; then use the test as a means to reach out and help the child understand the risks of using drugs. Don’t use the test as an excuse to expel them, or punish them, but exercise a little grace and work with them.

As much as I am for testing, I am against “zero tolerance” because it doesn’t allow for positive corrective measures. Expelling a child for drugs isn’t going to help him/her, but it will most likely reinforce why they took drugs to begin with.

I also believe in testing every student, not just the ones who participate in extra curricular activities. Of course the ACLU would jump all over this. Tests can be random, so a small number of students can give you a statistically accurate sampling of the student population. The trouble with this approach is that it might shock you to see the results. If you tested every student it would be very expensive, but a statistically correct sampling would give parents and administrators a good indication of the drug use in their schools.

I believe in drug testing, as I submit to tests all of the time.

The example set by all-star baseball player Josh Hamilton is a perfect illustration of the best attitude. Kicked out of baseball for his drug use and later reinstated, Hamilton submits gladly to weekly drug tests to show that he is clean, and to honor those who have put their trust in him. Expect, but inspect what you expect. It’s time to get back to personal responsibility.

http://www.drug-addiction-support.org/drug-addiction-dui.html

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