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October 19, 2010Freed by Bill Clinton, Saved by Jesus
The World Is Bigger Now recounts Christian journalist Euna Lee’s imprisonment in a North Korean jail.
Three Christians in the past year have drawn attention to North Korea’s repressive regime by crossing the river that divides the Communist nation from China. But unlike activists Robert Park and Aijalon Gomes, who wanted to get arrested, Euna Lee was just trying to do her job: reporting for Current TV on the plight of North Korean defectors. On March 17, 2009, she and fellow journalist Laura Ling were dragged by soldiers across the frozen Tumen River, then separated, interrogated, and imprisoned for five months.
In month four, Lee, a South Korean Christian, began walking and praying seven hours every day. And the walls of Jericho came tumbling down: After mounting pressure from human-rights groups and the intervention of Bill Clinton, the women were sent home on August 4. Days later, Lee was worshiping alongside husband Michael and daughter Hana at The Rock Church in San Diego.
In The World Is Bigger Now (Broadway), Lee recounts her efforts to retain hope and trust in God amid a 12-year prison sentence and threats of never seeing her family again.
You start the book by describing being dragged across the Tumen River by North Korean soldiers. You write, “As a Christian I always believed God would protect me. But where was he now? Why wasn’t he helping us?” As you look back on your hardships in prison, where was God?
When we were violently dragged by the North Korean soldiers from the Chinese side, I screamed for help, and I hoped that God would send somebody to rescue me from the situation. When I realized that no one was coming, I was desperate, and I felt so defeated.
I prayed every day crying out for help, but at the same time I was trying to figure things out by myself — what I could do, what I could not do. But whenever I told God, “Okay, it’s in your hands, I trust you,” all the burdens lifted from my shoulders. And there was a period of time that I got letters from my husband and friends and brothers and sisters from church, and all the letters told me that my husband and my daughter were okay. It felt like God telling me, “Don’t worry about them. They’re in my hands.”
Even though there were times I was impatient with God’s answer and was mad at him — I yelled at him and [called him] a liar — he sustained me. I journaled almost every day, and I made a wish list of things I wanted to do when I got home. One day recently, my husband and I realized we had done a lot of the activities on the list without planning. We were talking at our dining table, and we said, “God is so good. He is good.”
How did your faith inform your journalism work and your decision to go to North Korea on assignment with CurrentTV?
I believe God gives people different talent and wants to use them. As an editor, I was always looking for a bigger purpose [for] why God would put me in this position. When I learned about the North Korean defectors' situation from the documentary Seoul Train, I knew I had to something to help those people. And then when I was given the opportunity to tell their story, I was excited. I felt I finally found something that God wanted me to do.
When you and Laura returned to the U.S., some onlookers criticized your work, saying it only further endangered defectors. How do you respond to those criticisms?
It was hard, but we went to the heart of the story that we believed needed to be told. Not many people have a context for understanding the defectors’ situation. There are many people, thousands, men and women, who cross the Tumen River, who risk their lives every year to escape North Korea. And we were at a natural place where they cross.
When I came home, I was surprised that people put not only our story in the public eye, but also the North Korean defectors’ situation as well. One South Korean columnist wrote about our situation, and he said we should not hide from what happened but salvage something out of it. I wrote the book to keep the defectors’ situation in the public eye as long as I could.
In the book you describe your interactions with Christian pastor Chun Ki-won, who helps defectors resettle once they escape North Korea. What do you think of the work of South Korean Christians who help defectors? Might they end up doing more harm than good?
There are many people who are helping the defectors. In China, just by interacting with North Korean defectors you can be sent to jail, and some of them are facing time in prison in China. I believe they all are coming from good intentions. Sometimes even the best of intentions can be misconstrued.
How has your church community responded to your experience?
As you read in my book, I am an introverted person. At the end of July in North Korea, I finished “Jericho” in my room for seven hours straight, and I was so happy that I promised God to share my experience when I got home. When I came home, I called my pastor [Tim Chaddick] and told him I wanted to give my testimony. . . . That was my first public speech, in front of 700 people. I was nervous, but my husband was on my left side, and my pastor was on my right. It was a really good experience. It really wasn’t much about my experience in North Korea, but it was more like what I learned how my experience with God in that hard time.
In the time since you and Ling returned to the U.S., how have your life and outlook changed?
I have had the most memorable year since I came home. I told my husband that I have no regrets for the year I have had with my family. I was the type of person who put priority in my career, but through this ordeal, my family became my priority. Even everyday, mundane things like combing Hana’s hair or cooking together — those moments are so special.
Her.meneutics followed Euna and Laura's situation in North Korea as it unfolded last summer.

Comments
I rejoice not in your pain or hardship but in the greater relationship you have with God as a result of both! Such difficulties often serve to pull us towards God in ways that times of delight and joy cannot. I revelled in your words about how you railed at God which to me is the soul's way of finding new relational depth with Him as we wrestle through both our pain and His promises!
Posted By: PAIGE LANIER CHARGOIS | October 19, 2010 2:25 PM
Euna's story as an editor, wife, mother and Believer is fascinating. Thank you for this interview.
Posted By: karenzach | October 19, 2010 5:41 PM
"When I came home, I was surprised that people put not only our story in the public eye, but also the North Korean defectors’ situation as well. One South Korean columnist wrote about our situation, and he said we should not hide from what happened but salvage something out of it."
It sounds as though you have, Euna. And you will likely do so for the rest of your life. God's blessings to you and your family.
Posted By: Michelle Van Loon | October 19, 2010 7:43 PM
Until we experience tight and difficult situations like this which Euna and Laura passed through we may not understand how so much God cares nor feel His love for us. Euna had through this experience seen God in action as a true, loving, reliable, compassionate and above all, the almighty. I congratulate her and rejoice with her family. She is now better positioned to help others going through similar harrowing experiences. The same God will help you settle down and pave way for your future.
Posted By: David Odegbaro | October 19, 2010 10:58 PM
The Lord is do real and all His promises in scripture are true. I praise the Lord so much for Euna Lee's life. The Lord is now using her story and testimony to encourage the body of believers.
Posted By: Paul Jeremiah | October 20, 2010 3:29 AM
I've just finished reading Euna's book, and as a journalist and a Christian, I found her story an inspiration on so many levels. She honestly talks about her struggles, her doubt and ultimately, her confidence and faith in God. We are blessed that she is now openly sharing about her faith and the plight of those in North Korea.
Posted By: SusanMc | October 23, 2010 6:59 AM
Praise God that Euna was set free from that horrific captivity! I will definitely read her book. North Korea has been severely violating basic human rights for years, particularly against believers.
My only quibble is the title; she wasn't 'freed' by Bill Clinton. The Lord used him to effect her release. How I would love to see him go to bat for the multitudes of babies who are *legally* murdered in this country, every day.
Posted By: jules | October 31, 2010 12:54 AM
With so much hype about the Ling sisters' book, I assumed the same would be done for Ms Lee's book. But, apart from a touching video narrated by Euna, there has been very little publicity about the book, which I think is too bad. This is a great book and a must read, in my opinion, for people of faith. Thanks for doing this interview. (It is the only one I am aware of after the books publication). The book is truely inspirational and God has certainly blessed her and her family, and through her story God has brought the situation of the North Korean refugees to the awareness of many more people. It is now up to us to act.
Posted By: Tim | October 31, 2010 1:12 PM
I shed tears reading about how some Christians all over the world (especially in Arab & Asia) are being persecuted even like during the 'dark ages' when early believers were horribly persecuted (i.e. some were used in feeding lions & some burnt at the stake) and all that. But in our part of the world where there seems to be no persecution, we are trivializing Christianity and the Word of God which those early martyrs sealed with their blood. OH! OH! OH! Can all believers rise up to this challenge & go down on our knees. Please, all believers/readers here keep praying for all we Christians in Africa because we are all sleeping in our various homes & neighbourhoods when defectors, preachers (like Euna Lee) etc are suffering & languishing in various jails of the West. God help & have mercy on us.
Posted By: Larry | October 26, 2011 8:01 AM